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Pirate Bay access

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Just one day after they shut off access to Pirate Bay in the UK, this site appeared:

http://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/

So, a job well done then.
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It was always going to happen. At least is sends a message that they are finally doing something about all the piracy going on out there.
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Piracy is really making a huge dent in the industry too - they have to focus every effort that they can to stop it, and immediately. Just listen to this stat;

"Avengers Assemble became the first film to take $200.3 million at the US box office on its opening weekend, smashing a record previously held by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2."

How do they cope.
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ddavis wrote:Piracy is really making a huge dent in the industry too - they have to focus every effort that they can to stop it, and immediately. Just listen to this stat;

"Avengers Assemble became the first film to take $200.3 million at the US box office on its opening weekend, smashing a record previously held by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2."

How do they cope.
For every film that does this there are literally thousands that lose money, since when did owning an intellectual property and trying to monetise it become a bad thing? When did the rights of someone too impatient to wait or tight to purchase become more important than those of the legal owner?
I hate the way this country has turned success and wealth in to a bad thing, are we now supposed to champion mediocrity or failure?
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Wimbledon Blue wrote:For every film that does this there are literally thousands that lose money, since when did owning an intellectual property and trying to monetise it become a bad thing? When did the rights of someone too impatient to wait or tight to purchase become more important than those of the legal owner?
I hate the way this country has turned success and wealth in to a bad thing, are we now supposed to champion mediocrity or failure?
Not what I'm saying...

I'm saying that the problem isn't as prevalent as it's made out to be.

Pirate copies are generally poor, watched by people who can't afford to watch that film anyway. That's not about being tight, that's about them not having the money.

I've watched pirate material before. If I enjoyed the movie, I then make an effort to go and see it (or rent / buy it when it comes out).

The British TV industry practically encourages piracy. On the one hand you have Sky refusing to allow Virgin to show Sky Atlantic, on the other hand you have Virgin with lightning quick broadband advertised as perfect for 'streaming tv'. I wonder how that'll end...
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ddavis wrote:
Wimbledon Blue wrote:For every film that does this there are literally thousands that lose money, since when did owning an intellectual property and trying to monetise it become a bad thing? When did the rights of someone too impatient to wait or tight to purchase become more important than those of the legal owner?
I hate the way this country has turned success and wealth in to a bad thing, are we now supposed to champion mediocrity or failure?
Not what I'm saying...

I'm saying that the problem isn't as prevalent as it's made out to be.

Pirate copies are generally poor, watched by people who can't afford to watch that film anyway. That's not about being tight, that's about them not having the money.

I've watched pirate material before. If I enjoyed the movie, I then make an effort to go and see it (or rent / buy it when it comes out).

The British TV industry practically encourages piracy. On the one hand you have Sky refusing to allow Virgin to show Sky Atlantic, on the other hand you have Virgin with lightning quick broadband advertised as perfect for 'streaming tv'. I wonder how that'll end...
I'm not a fan of Sky but Sky pay a lot of money for these rights, they are a subscription based channel whose one goal is to drive subscriptions, why should they allow their content to be shown on rival platforms?
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Wimbledon Blue wrote:I'm not a fan of Sky but Sky pay a lot of money for these rights, they are a subscription based channel whose one goal is to drive subscriptions, why should they allow their content to be shown on rival platforms?
I agree. Sky do need to be paying the BBC for access to their content and not as is presently the case the BBC paying for Sky's platform - what is it with Tories abusing the market...
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Lost in Kate's Tinsel wrote:
Wimbledon Blue wrote:I'm not a fan of Sky but Sky pay a lot of money for these rights, they are a subscription based channel whose one goal is to drive subscriptions, why should they allow their content to be shown on rival platforms?
I agree. Sky do need to be paying the BBC for access to their content and not as is presently the case the BBC paying for Sky's platform - what is it with Tories abusing the market...
Aaaaaand it becomes another anti-Tory thread.

You haven't viciously plagiarised a Guardian/Economist article for a few hours, wassup wiv that?

Edit: Oops, my mistake: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... asitic-sky
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Lost in Kate's Tinsel wrote:
Wimbledon Blue wrote:I'm not a fan of Sky but Sky pay a lot of money for these rights, they are a subscription based channel whose one goal is to drive subscriptions, why should they allow their content to be shown on rival platforms?
I agree. Sky do need to be paying the BBC for access to their content and not as is presently the case the BBC paying for Sky's platform - what is it with Tories abusing the market...
I agree with you on that point, the BBC needs to defend itself against competition and Sky should pay for the content they use, the BBC channels are by far the most watched on SKy, Virgin, BT, etc
The fact that the BBC pay Sky to let them show it is utterly ridiculous, i'm not sure that is a particular Conservative thing though, may well have come in to place during the last Labour administration.
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Irony not your strong point is it Captain Google?
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Wimbledon Blue wrote:The fact that the BBC pay Sky to let them show it is utterly ridiculous, i'm not sure that is a particular Conservative thing though, may well have come in to place during the last Labour administration.
It dates back to 1990 WB as a means to support the new platforms as they were. Basically indirect state support through the TV Licence. Whatever merits that had twenty years ago doesn't have credibility now. It should have been removed a long time ago.
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Lost in Kate's Tinsel wrote:Irony not your strong point is it Captain Google?
If you steal from many, it's 'Research'.
If you steal from one, it's 'Plagiarism'.
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HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife wrote:
Lost in Kate's Tinsel wrote:Irony not your strong point is it Captain Google?
If you steal from many, it's 'Research'.
If you steal from one, it's 'Plagiarism'.
What are you going on about?
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Lost in Kate's Tinsel wrote:
Wimbledon Blue wrote:The fact that the BBC pay Sky to let them show it is utterly ridiculous, i'm not sure that is a particular Conservative thing though, may well have come in to place during the last Labour administration.
It dates back to 1990 WB as a means to support the new platforms as they were. Basically indirect state support through the TV Licence. Whatever merits that had twenty years ago doesn't have credibility now. It should have been removed a long time ago.

Totally agree, I think the competition has been given enough breaks, the BBC needs to be able to compete again.
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HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife wrote:
Lost in Kate's Tinsel wrote:Irony not your strong point is it Captain Google?
If you steal from many, it's 'Research'.
If you steal from one, it's 'Plagiarism'.
Are you seriously suggesting that LIKW is not allowed to read things and then form an opinion?

You're barmy.
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