Driver awareness courses ( SPEEDING )

[Number 1 Jasper]

Thanks all .

I will read again on August 13th . As I thought it was a 9:30 start , it was in fact 8:30..........

[This Time Next Year]

If you'd put your foot down you could have made it

[ddavis]

Speed + 10% + whatever is all 'guidance'.

They can, and will if they want, do you for 31 in a 30. Most roads are zero tolerance.

Is there not a legal precedent where someone appealed a ticket on the basis that to keep to a precise maximum of 30mph involved driving without due care and attention, since they would have to spend a disproportionate amount of time checking the speedometer, and therefore insufficient time looking at the actual road?

That would be a silly argument, it applies to any speed. Can't see many judges buying that. They'd only need to respond that if the argument is by not looking you can creep over 30, try and aim for 27. Then when you creep you'll still be under.

[Earl Grey]

Speed + 10% + whatever is all 'guidance'.

They can, and will if they want, do you for 31 in a 30. Most roads are zero tolerance.

Is there not a legal precedent where someone appealed a ticket on the basis that to keep to a precise maximum of 30mph involved driving without due care and attention, since they would have to spend a disproportionate amount of time checking the speedometer, and therefore insufficient time looking at the actual road?

That would be a silly argument, it applies to any speed. Can't see many judges buying that. They'd only need to respond that if the argument is by not looking you can creep over 30, try and aim for 27. Then when you creep you'll still be under.

I wonder if you'd pass your driving test by aiming to go at 27, checking every now and then to see if you were getting too close to 30.

Indeed I wonder if any driving organisation (AA, RAC etc.) or even the police would support that strategy.

[Locky_McLockface]

Speed + 10% + whatever is all 'guidance'.

They can, and will if they want, do you for 31 in a 30. Most roads are zero tolerance.

Is there not a legal precedent where someone appealed a ticket on the basis that to keep to a precise maximum of 30mph involved driving without due care and attention, since they would have to spend a disproportionate amount of time checking the speedometer, and therefore insufficient time looking at the actual road?

That would be a silly argument, it applies to any speed. Can't see many judges buying that. They'd only need to respond that if the argument is by not looking you can creep over 30, try and aim for 27. Then when you creep you'll still be under.

I wonder if you'd pass your driving test by aiming to go at 27, checking every now and then to see if you were getting too close to 30.

Indeed I wonder if any driving organisation (AA, RAC etc.) or even the police would support that strategy.

Way back when I took my driving test, you would fail for not keeping up with the traffic flow (ie going too slowly).

Just found this from a month ago in the Daily Fail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... 32mph.html

It is talking about lower tolerances for speeding (ie you get done at just 2mph over the posted limit). In it, a spokesman from the RAC Foundation says

These plans will lead to more people watching their speedometers instead of the road, and that will not increase safety.

[HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife]

Self-drive cars are getting closer. In 5-10 years, we'll be too busy playing 'Candy Crush v Angry Birds' to care what speed our Google RoboCar is going.

[Weybridge]

Self-drive cars are getting closer. In 5-10 years, we'll be too busy playing 'Candy Crush v Angry Birds' to care what speed our Google RoboCar is going.

But in the meantime :

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Point of note - In New Zealand, car insurance is not a legal requirement.

[Lost in Transportation]

Self-drive cars are getting closer. In 5-10 years, we'll be too busy playing 'Candy Crush v Angry Birds' to care what speed our Google RoboCar is going.

That would be great for the boring motorway driving. Not sure I trust sat-navs though especially if/when the machines decide to rebel.

[HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife]

Self-drive cars are getting closer. In 5-10 years, we'll be too busy playing 'Candy Crush v Angry Birds' to care what speed our Google RoboCar is going.

Point of note - In New Zealand, car insurance is not a legal requirement.

On a recent trip in NZ, we rented a motorhome to tour S Island. Returning back to the depot on the outskirts of Christchurch, we found ourselves behind three cars waiting to cross a mini-roundabout opposite the entrance.

With all seriousness, the depot boss commented on how ridiculously busy the roads were that day....

[Kingofstar]

Self-drive cars are getting closer. In 5-10 years, we'll be too busy playing 'Candy Crush v Angry Birds' to care what speed our Google RoboCar is going.

Point of note - In New Zealand, car insurance is not a legal requirement.

On a recent trip in NZ, we rented a motorhome to tour S Island. Returning back to the depot on the outskirts of Christchurch, we found ourselves behind three cars waiting to cross a mini-roundabout opposite the entrance.

With all seriousness, the depot boss commented on how ridiculously busy the roads were that day....

In Ventnor people ring you up to go look at two cars following each other.

[No Shot Sherlock]

In Ventnor people ring you up to go look at two cars following each other.

You have cars on the island now?

[Locky_McLockface]

Self-drive cars are getting closer. In 5-10 years, we'll be too busy playing 'Candy Crush v Angry Birds' to care what speed our Google RoboCar is going.

Point of note - In New Zealand, car insurance is not a legal requirement.

On a recent trip in NZ, we rented a motorhome to tour S Island. Returning back to the depot on the outskirts of Christchurch, we found ourselves behind three cars waiting to cross a mini-roundabout opposite the entrance.

With all seriousness, the depot boss commented on how ridiculously busy the roads were that day....

In Ventnor people ring you up to go look at two cars following each other.

Must get a helluva lot of phone calls......

[This Time Next Year]

In Ventnor people ring you up to go look at two cars following each other.

You have cars on the island now?

Never mind the cars... when did you get phones on the island!?

[Weybridge]

In Ventnor people ring you up to go look at two cars following each other.

You have cars on the island now?

Never mind the cars... when did you get phones on the island!?

Ring you up? In Ventnor people string you up. Cars - witchcraft.