Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
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Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
I realise that there would need to be multiple caveats attached to such a question i.e. capacity, location, timescale, cost, expansion possibility etc... but, if you had to decide based on a single binary question, which answer would you give to the following question?
Should Portsmouth FC remain at Fratton Park or leave Fratton Park?
a. Remain
b. Leave
Should Portsmouth FC remain at Fratton Park or leave Fratton Park?
a. Remain
b. Leave
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
Leave
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
If all the caveats are taken out, then we are only left with nostalgia, so on those terms it has to be remain.
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
Leave
FP is not a good location, unless the station transport link can be fixed and access completely redesigned. The club is absolutely right to be working on this. But the decision making and investment are, at least in part, totally reliant on other groups. I have serious doubts as to whether this will ever be achieved - hence Leave.
But I also have my doubts about Leave: where would we go? Horsea Island perhaps with a new link to the M275 and a station? Furze Lane but only with a new link road from the Eastern Road?
Both the above have real problems in terms of investment and planning: you can see why the club are taking so long to move this forward.
FP is not a good location, unless the station transport link can be fixed and access completely redesigned. The club is absolutely right to be working on this. But the decision making and investment are, at least in part, totally reliant on other groups. I have serious doubts as to whether this will ever be achieved - hence Leave.
But I also have my doubts about Leave: where would we go? Horsea Island perhaps with a new link to the M275 and a station? Furze Lane but only with a new link road from the Eastern Road?
Both the above have real problems in terms of investment and planning: you can see why the club are taking so long to move this forward.
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
I love FP but do I want to spend a fair chunk of my remaining life watching as FP resembles a building site?
Leave.
Leave.
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
First visited Fratton Park as a kid in 1970 when my dad took me to the Hampshire Senior Cup Final (Waterlooville 3 - 1 Gosport). 49 years later I still love the old ground but...... it's leave for me.
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
Leave or Remain is too simplistic...let's try and open it up a little!! For example, reading comments about FP it seems to me most people are concerned about:
Parking, Toilets, Uneven steps, catering, cramped seating...the list is probably longer but that will do.
So, the question now is..
Parking...supposing land was bought (including adjoining houses) and made into car parking?
Toilets...were increased, made more 'convenient' and hygienic?
Uneven steps...were made even/disposed of?
Catering...was greatly improved/more available/reasonable charges?
Cramped seating...with rebuilt ME and double decked NS..new wider and more comfortable seating?
....IF all that was accomplished (at a fraction of the cost of relocating)...Leave or Remain??...Interesting??
Parking, Toilets, Uneven steps, catering, cramped seating...the list is probably longer but that will do.
So, the question now is..
Parking...supposing land was bought (including adjoining houses) and made into car parking?
Toilets...were increased, made more 'convenient' and hygienic?
Uneven steps...were made even/disposed of?
Catering...was greatly improved/more available/reasonable charges?
Cramped seating...with rebuilt ME and double decked NS..new wider and more comfortable seating?
....IF all that was accomplished (at a fraction of the cost of relocating)...Leave or Remain??...Interesting??
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As I've said previously, a turd is a turd no matter how hard you polish it.eltorrro wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:51 pm Leave or Remain is too simplistic...let's try and open it up a little!! For example, reading comments about FP it seems to me most people are concerned about:
Parking, Toilets, Uneven steps, catering, cramped seating...the list is probably longer but that will do.
So, the question now is..
Parking...supposing land was bought (including adjoining houses) and made into car parking?
Toilets...were increased, made more 'convenient' and hygienic?
Uneven steps...were made even/disposed of?
Catering...was greatly improved/more available/reasonable charges?
Cramped seating...with rebuilt ME and double decked NS..new wider and more comfortable seating?
....IF all that was accomplished (at a fraction of the cost of relocating)...Leave or Remain??...Interesting??
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
If you ever want to be a "big" club and be a prem fixture with a 40k attendance every week....well, sorry but you gotta move to the city's northern outskirts so it becomes easy to pull from a larger area. You need the Motorway and a station and some fat acreage to park and As far as I know, the northern part of the city is all there is. You can buy all the houses you want in Fratton but its still a pain to drive to from outside the city limits.
Cincinnati is a great example also restricted by water on 1 side and y'all have water on 3 sides. Built 2 new stadiums for baseball and the NFL....put them downtown ...and I don't go.
Cincinnati is a great example also restricted by water on 1 side and y'all have water on 3 sides. Built 2 new stadiums for baseball and the NFL....put them downtown ...and I don't go.
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
Does anyone here think that there is likely to be any interest from the owners in the sale of The Pompey Centre retail park? For those with more local knowledge than me - would there be scope to knockdown any of those properties and build a new stadium?
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
I heard a rumour earlier in the year that an option under consideration was bulldozing the B&Q there to build a new stadium. I even posted a 'you can do it' hint on this board. That would move the ground closer to Fratton station and would make sense of the new walkway/footbridge that is apparently being considered.PakefieldBlue wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:22 pm Does anyone here think that there is likely to be any interest from the owners in the sale of The Pompey Centre retail park? For those with more local knowledge than me - would there be scope to knockdown any of those properties and build a new stadium?
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Re: Leave or Remain (No, not Brexit)
B&Q have 8 yrs left on their lease NSS.No Shot Sherlock wrote:I heard a rumour earlier in the year that an option under consideration was bulldozing the B&Q there to build a new stadium. I even posted a 'you can do it' hint on this board. That would move the ground closer to Fratton station and would make sense of the new walkway/footbridge that is apparently being considered.PakefieldBlue wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:22 pm Does anyone here think that there is likely to be any interest from the owners in the sale of The Pompey Centre retail park? For those with more local knowledge than me - would there be scope to knockdown any of those properties and build a new stadium?
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