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Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:15 pm
by Locky_McLockface
According to Big Bozzer, in Tier 1 areas, up to 4000 fans will be allowed in to sporting venues, and up to 2000 in Tier 2 areas. None in Tier 3 areas.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:48 pm
by Sam_Brown
Great stuff. Am a bit curious on the timing because I feel things were more precariously balanced than they were back in August / September but not gonna complain I think most assumed it would be a phased return so here’s hoping the Wembley match can go ahead early into the new year.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:12 pm
by pompeygunner
With the vaccine coming soon this is good news imo as long as people are sensible. For instance I think the usual heaving pubs before a game wont happen. It could be a case of go the game, go home. But hey its progress.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:03 pm
by blue architect
I have to agree it all sounds very good. However, I am going to temper this with a bit of gloom. As part of my work, I project manage refurbishments to hospitals around the south. Most have been rescheduled several times since March and the latest tentative dates are for mid-January. However, these have now been put in doubt as hospitals appear to be preparing to gear up for another lockdown in January to cover the inevitable increase in Covid cases due to the relaxation over Christmas.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 pm
by No Shot Sherlock
So assuming Portsmouth stays in tier 1, which 4,000 (of the how many thousand season ticket holders are there?) will be chosen to attend?

I wouldn't want to be the one at Fratton Park tasked with deciding that!

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:26 am
by Pompey Penguin
No Shot Sherlock wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 pm So assuming Portsmouth stays in tier 1, which 4,000 (of the how many thousand season ticket holders are there?) will be chosen to attend?

I wouldn't want to be the one at Fratton Park tasked with deciding that!
Didn't we choose to be in groups/bands or something when we bought out flexi-season tickets? That is at least the basis for a fair system which allows fans to be offered tickets in turn game-by-game.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:28 pm
by Selsey Bill
No Shot Sherlock wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 pm So assuming Portsmouth stays in tier 1, which 4,000 (of the how many thousand season ticket holders are there?) will be chosen to attend?

I wouldn't want to be the one at Fratton Park tasked with deciding that!
My understanding is that there are about 12,000 flexi season ticket holders. At the start of the season the club contacted us all outlining a plan to allocate groups of fans admission to certain games - at that point I believe they were suggesting 1,000 per game. If every fan wanted to take the club up on this offer (I appreciate unlikely) this would mean fans could potentially go to every 12th game at home, i.e. not many, but better than none. Obviously they are now talking of letting up to 4,000 in per game, so hopefully will get to see a few more home games live. :thumb P.S. They were talking about charging an adult about £24 per game.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:38 pm
by Locky_McLockface
No Shot Sherlock wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 pm So assuming Portsmouth stays in tier 1,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us in Tier 2.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:09 pm
by Sam_Brown
Locky_McLockface wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:38 pm
No Shot Sherlock wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 pm So assuming Portsmouth stays in tier 1,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us in Tier 2.
There's a promotion \ relegation joke here but I can't make it work lol.

If it helps put your mind at ease then based on the recent 7-day rolling average Portsmouth cases are on the decline at the moment and putting us ranked 100 in terms of all English Local Authorities. It's down 8% for the week ending 18th November. Newest figures should be out tomorrow.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:28 pm
by The Cincinnati Kid
Someone set me straight here but does this whole thing not make any sense at all?

It sounds like you could cram 4000 fans into Accrington Stanley if they have the right covid tier level in that neighborhood but meanwhile we can generously space 4000 into Old Trafford? Shouldn't this be a % of capacity rather than a hard number?

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:38 pm
by meakinsl
Great news but can't help feeling this will gives teams in a lower tier an advantage over those in a higher one, imagine if we have fans at everyone of our home games and other teams in tier 3 have none. Guessing even given the disparity most people would want fans back in some capacity as must be very strange playing in empty stadiums and impressed how quickly teams have adapted.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:44 pm
by Selsey Bill
The Cincinnati Kid wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:28 pm Someone set me straight here but does this whole thing not make any sense at all?

It sounds like you could cram 4000 fans into Accrington Stanley if they have the right covid tier level in that neighborhood but meanwhile we can generously space 4000 into Old Trafford? Shouldn't this be a % of capacity rather than a hard number?
Couldn't agree more - seems crazy to me. Your example shows two extremes in the 4 football leagues, but you could have equally used Fratton Park instead of OT to make your point!

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:10 pm
by Pompey1984+1
It's 4k fans or a percentage of the capacity. Whichever is smaller.

Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:59 pm
by Sam_Brown
Sam_Brown wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:09 pm
Locky_McLockface wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:38 pm
No Shot Sherlock wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 pm So assuming Portsmouth stays in tier 1,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see us in Tier 2.
There's a promotion \ relegation joke here but I can't make it work lol.

If it helps put your mind at ease then based on the recent 7-day rolling average Portsmouth cases are on the decline at the moment and putting us ranked 100 in terms of all English Local Authorities. It's down 8% for the week ending 18th November. Newest figures should be out tomorrow.
For those who care about these sorts of things. We're down to 109th and a further decrease for cases in Pompey. -17% on the previous 7 day rolling.


Re: Fans back at Fratton Park?

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:49 am
by Mr Dee
No signing, cheering, shouting or drinking beer apparently.