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Blue Walter wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:50 pm Anyone worked out where the ball is? It looks like it was a Pompey attack and the Pompey centre forward has just missed a sitter. Apparently it was the Most Honourable Jonathan of Marquis Esquire.
being headed away by the defender - left hand side centre half/covering left back type position
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Jack_Tinn wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:46 pm
Blue Walter wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:50 pm Anyone worked out where the ball is? It looks like it was a Pompey attack and the Pompey centre forward has just missed a sitter. Apparently it was the Most Honourable Jonathan of Marquis Esquire.
being headed away by the defender - left hand side centre half/covering left back type position

Yes I saw it but it took some looking. The 6 yard box is a semi circular in this picture. I thought that by the time this picture was taken that the pitch was marked out much the same as now. Having nets was a later addition but not that later I wouldn't have thought.
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Actually, what I have written about Arthur Conan Doyle is a load of tosh apparently, much like most of the other stuff I post I can hear you say. I checked his involvement with Pompey but it was prior to the professional club and it was with Portsmouth AFC, which was the amateur club. This was the forerunner of the professional team. The article I read said that he played under the name of Smith and he played in goal. I am pretty sure that when I went the the Conan Doyle exhibition there was a section dealing with his sporting life and the information given was that he played at left back under the puesdinom of A. N. Other. Also I think that it said that he was instrumental in the forming of the professional team. I will delve further to keep you all informed because I am sure you are all interested. I do know that he was very much involved in Spiritualism and was a regular at the Portsmouth Spiritualist Church. So before you all collapse in a yawning fit beware because he could well be standing behind you.

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Blue Walter wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:32 am Actually, what I have written about Arthur Conan Doyle is a load of tosh apparently, much like most of the other stuff I post I can hear you say. I checked his involvement with Pompey but it was prior to the professional club and it was with Portsmouth AFC, which was the amateur club. This was the forerunner of the professional team. The article I read said that he played under the name of Smith and he played in goal. I am pretty sure that when I went the the Conan Doyle exhibition there was a section dealing with his sporting life and the information given was that he played at left back under the puesdinom of A. N. Other. Also I think that it said that he was instrumental in the forming of the professional team. I will delve further to keep you all informed because I am sure you are all interested. I do know that he was very much involved in Spiritualism and was a regular at the Portsmouth Spiritualist Church. So before you all collapse in a yawning fit beware because he could well be standing behind you.

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I always understood he played in goal. I believe that fact was once used in the Odd One Out round in an early Have I Got News For You.
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Locky_McLockface wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:37 am
Blue Walter wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:32 am Actually, what I have written about Arthur Conan Doyle is a load of tosh apparently, much like most of the other stuff I post I can hear you say. I checked his involvement with Pompey but it was prior to the professional club and it was with Portsmouth AFC, which was the amateur club. This was the forerunner of the professional team. The article I read said that he played under the name of Smith and he played in goal. I am pretty sure that when I went the the Conan Doyle exhibition there was a section dealing with his sporting life and the information given was that he played at left back under the puesdinom of A. N. Other. Also I think that it said that he was instrumental in the forming of the professional team. I will delve further to keep you all informed because I am sure you are all interested. I do know that he was very much involved in Spiritualism and was a regular at the Portsmouth Spiritualist Church. So before you all collapse in a yawning fit beware because he could well be standing behind you.

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I always understood he played in goal. I believe that fact was once used in the Odd One Out round in an early Have I Got News For You.
OK, thanks. It does look like I have got that wrong then.
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Surely that's not Fratton Park in it's current location. Looks to be way too close to water.
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Bluesbro' wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:40 pm Surely that's not Fratton Park in it's current location. Looks to be way too close to water.
Don't forget that there was no sea defences at that time so the sea would come much closer at high tide. Either that or its somewhere else and/or it's not Pompey.
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Not really up on where the coastline was in 1899. Just thinking if that is Hayling with the IoW to the right then the pitch must be 90deg off what it is now. the skyline of the IoW looks a bit suspect too, looks like there are mountains on it. :shock:
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Was this the first”spot the ball” competition?
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Brilliant photo. Interesting pitch markings too, it looks more like a 5-a-side penalty/goal area.
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FatBlueAde wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:59 pm Bit before my time lol, but thought this was interesting when it popped up on a footie ground site.
Brilliant.
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blue-two wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:03 am
FatBlueAde wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:59 pm Bit before my time lol, but thought this was interesting when it popped up on a footie ground site.
Brilliant.
But I don't think that this is Fratton Park in its current location on the island.

All the ninteenth century maps show the full island as it exists now. Thus the current FP is around 1.3 miles from the nearest sea. FP is not as close as shown in the pic.
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Elementary my dear Walter
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Milton End wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:51 am
blue-two wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:03 am
FatBlueAde wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:59 pm Bit before my time lol, but thought this was interesting when it popped up on a footie ground site.
Brilliant.
But I don't think that this is Fratton Park in its current location on the island.

All the ninteenth century maps show the full island as it exists now. Thus the current FP is around 1.3 miles from the nearest sea. FP is not as close as shown in the pic.
Much "land" on the eastern side of island has been reclaimed, east of `Eastern Road`and the Langstone area of Portsmouth. When I was at school in Tangiers Road (SGS) in the early sixties we watched from our classroom windows the refuse lorries tipping their loads in order to create the base for the reclaimation. Today much of that `land` is now built on.
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