Down the pub?
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Re: Down the pub?
FWIW - Out here in AZ, when the restaurants and bars reopened, there was the need to get info from patrons so that it was easier to track down people if someone came down with the virus. It was not popular and the younger generation who were just out for a drink even failed to use social distancing / masks and many refused to give this info as it would be a tracking mechanism.
Result is a huge increase in cases and we are close to closing down again with more restrictions coming in.
Result is a huge increase in cases and we are close to closing down again with more restrictions coming in.
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Does this suggest that the lifting of restrictions is occurring way to quickly? Yes, it is of course important to protect the economy but at what cost? Not only will there be a considerable rise in cases and deaths (second wave) but also if a second lockdown is imposed, it will massively damage the economy.uspompeyfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:47 am FWIW - Out here in AZ, when the restaurants and bars reopened, there was the need to get info from patrons so that it was easier to track down people if someone came down with the virus. It was not popular and the younger generation who were just out for a drink even failed to use social distancing / masks and many refused to give this info as it would be a tracking mechanism.
Result is a huge increase in cases and we are close to closing down again with more restrictions coming in.
It might sound harsh, but in my opinion non-essential businesses that involve people in close proximity to each other or ones that involve touching of objects/items must remain closed.
Re: Down the pub?
Agreed. From Monday, I've got to go back into London for the first time since March, but you couldn't drag me on to the Underground right now, mask or not.GreenBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:00 amDoes this suggest that the lifting of restrictions is occurring way to quickly? Yes, it is of course important to protect the economy but at what cost? Not only will there be a considerable rise in cases and deaths (second wave) but also if a second lockdown is imposed, it will massively damage the economy.uspompeyfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:47 am FWIW - Out here in AZ, when the restaurants and bars reopened, there was the need to get info from patrons so that it was easier to track down people if someone came down with the virus. It was not popular and the younger generation who were just out for a drink even failed to use social distancing / masks and many refused to give this info as it would be a tracking mechanism.
Result is a huge increase in cases and we are close to closing down again with more restrictions coming in.
It might sound harsh, but in my opinion non-essential businesses that involve people in close proximity to each other or ones that involve touching of objects/items must remain closed.
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With regard to the underground, I travelled on the Circle Line, District Line and Northern Line on Tuesday and Wednesday this week. There was hardly anyone on any of the trains - plenty of room to social distance and the majority of people were wearing masks.Weybridge wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:13 amAgreed. From Monday, I've got to go back into London for the first time since March, but you couldn't drag me on to the Underground right now, mask or not.GreenBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:00 amDoes this suggest that the lifting of restrictions is occurring way to quickly? Yes, it is of course important to protect the economy but at what cost? Not only will there be a considerable rise in cases and deaths (second wave) but also if a second lockdown is imposed, it will massively damage the economy.uspompeyfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:47 am FWIW - Out here in AZ, when the restaurants and bars reopened, there was the need to get info from patrons so that it was easier to track down people if someone came down with the virus. It was not popular and the younger generation who were just out for a drink even failed to use social distancing / masks and many refused to give this info as it would be a tracking mechanism.
Result is a huge increase in cases and we are close to closing down again with more restrictions coming in.
It might sound harsh, but in my opinion non-essential businesses that involve people in close proximity to each other or ones that involve touching of objects/items must remain closed.
Importantly, I did not travel during rush hour. My journeys were late morning Tuesday and mid morning Wednesday.
Both journeys were much faster than the bus that I used two weeks ago. In addition, I was much closer to people in the bus because there is much less seating space. I would suggest that you don't use a bus unless it is really necessary.
I have also travelled by taxi in recent weeks. Clearly, you can be alone but the taxi driver was not wearing a mask.
There were more people on the train down to the south coast yesterday afternoon. Waterloo was quiet but, on the train, many young people were not wearing masks and did not seem to care about others.
Incidentally, the City of London business district was like a ghost town on both Tuesday and Wednesday - most places still closed and hardly anyone around.
Good luck with your travels.
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Re: Down the pub?
It’s quiet in Sway. But crazy at Bournemouth beach. Presumably it’s busy down at Southsea beach?
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Not sure . I was at hayling island yesterday and the beach was quite busy but there was plenty of room between people. The traffic going there today is all gridlocked up through HavantNew Forester wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:11 am It’s quiet in Sway. But crazy at Bournemouth beach. Presumably it’s busy down at Southsea beach?
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I'll be giving the pub a miss for now. We all can guess @ whats going to happen, they'll be very busy with people who through novelty value will be forcing as much drink down their necks as they can. Good luck to the Landlords.
Its really been such a strange time, I'd hoped it would bring out the very best in people but as we saw in the early days with supermarket panic buying etc etc, now its people charging off to the beach & giving social distancing a miss. I also see that they cant be bothered to take their litter home. Leaving a massive mess behind. (people moan about travellers ffs).
Roll on a vaccine when all this will hopefully be over & we can all get back to what was considered normal.
Its really been such a strange time, I'd hoped it would bring out the very best in people but as we saw in the early days with supermarket panic buying etc etc, now its people charging off to the beach & giving social distancing a miss. I also see that they cant be bothered to take their litter home. Leaving a massive mess behind. (people moan about travellers ffs).
Roll on a vaccine when all this will hopefully be over & we can all get back to what was considered normal.
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I used to cycle from Bedhampton to the beach on Hayling in the 50s. Cycling home on Sunday afternoons in high summer we used to reach Havant before cars that left the beach at the same time. Some things never change?Mr D Nuts wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:15 amNot sure . I was at hayling island yesterday and the beach was quite busy but there was plenty of room between people. The traffic going there today is all gridlocked up through HavantNew Forester wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:11 am It’s quiet in Sway. But crazy at Bournemouth beach. Presumably it’s busy down at Southsea beach?
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It's not just the medical and scientific community that have an input, though, and without wishing to disrespect Profs Whitty and Vallance, all they have to worry about is the medicine and the science.
The jovial buffoon also has to worry about the economy and public order, and copious other factors too.
If we don't return the economy to being fully in motion, the consequent recession will dwarf 2008. Many more businesses will close, meaning that the Social Security budget will rocket.
Of course, every death is a tragedy for those involved, but we don't have this level of panic about seasonal flu, we just deal with it. We live with it. We need to learn to live with Covid-19.
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New Forester wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:11 am It’s quiet in Sway. But crazy at Bournemouth beach. Presumably it’s busy down at Southsea beach?
As I was saying!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-53176717
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And Boris is relying on the good sense of the British people when lockdown is further eased on 4 July!New Forester wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:44 pmNew Forester wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:11 am It’s quiet in Sway. But crazy at Bournemouth beach. Presumably it’s busy down at Southsea beach?
As I was saying!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-53176717
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I wonder how many of those packing these beaches will claim they were "working from home" today
What must NHS workers be thinking? Shame there's not some way of 'marking' repeat offenders. Three marks and you forfeit the right to treatment if you contract Covid-19.
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Milton End wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:33 amWith regard to the underground, I travelled on the Circle Line, District Line and Northern Line on Tuesday and Wednesday this week. There was hardly anyone on any of the trains - plenty of room to social distance and the majority of people were wearing masks.Weybridge wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:13 amAgreed. From Monday, I've got to go back into London for the first time since March, but you couldn't drag me on to the Underground right now, mask or not.GreenBlue wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:00 amDoes this suggest that the lifting of restrictions is occurring way to quickly? Yes, it is of course important to protect the economy but at what cost? Not only will there be a considerable rise in cases and deaths (second wave) but also if a second lockdown is imposed, it will massively damage the economy.uspompeyfan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:47 am FWIW - Out here in AZ, when the restaurants and bars reopened, there was the need to get info from patrons so that it was easier to track down people if someone came down with the virus. It was not popular and the younger generation who were just out for a drink even failed to use social distancing / masks and many refused to give this info as it would be a tracking mechanism.
Result is a huge increase in cases and we are close to closing down again with more restrictions coming in.
It might sound harsh, but in my opinion non-essential businesses that involve people in close proximity to each other or ones that involve touching of objects/items must remain closed.
Importantly, I did not travel during rush hour. My journeys were late morning Tuesday and mid morning Wednesday.
Both journeys were much faster than the bus that I used two weeks ago. In addition, I was much closer to people in the bus because there is much less seating space. I would suggest that you don't use a bus unless it is really necessary.
I have also travelled by taxi in recent weeks. Clearly, you can be alone but the taxi driver was not wearing a mask.
There were more people on the train down to the south coast yesterday afternoon. Waterloo was quiet but, on the train, many young people were not wearing masks and did not seem to care about others.
Incidentally, the City of London business district was like a ghost town on both Tuesday and Wednesday - most places still closed and hardly anyone around.
Good luck with your travels.
Been down to London a few times recently and drove for the first time and was so quiet on the roads it was unreal. Northampton to Borough market took 90 minutes if that. Quicker than my normal journey by train and tube! Granted this was about a month ago but just seeing the area round St Paul’s and South Bank completely empty was both amazing to see and unsettling at the same time.
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Everybody knows you can't catch it if you gather with thousands of others at the beach, a protest march or celebrating a football win .No Shot Sherlock wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:23 pm I wonder how many of those packing these beaches will claim they were "working from home" today
What must NHS workers be thinking? Shame there's not some way of 'marking' repeat offenders. Three marks and you forfeit the right to treatment if you contract Covid-19.
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