Taking the knee.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

BLM ........yeah, worthy cause and about time BUT, what a totally ineptly run organization. Who's in charge of the show? Where's the MLK, the John Lewis, the Ghandi, the Mandela?
1. Organize yerselves and keep it peaceful.
2. Own the violence in your communities, those lives don't seem to matter.
3. Stop telling me I'm racist and privileged.....I'm not and very sorry I was born white

Stay on task, have a consistent message, get a leadership and we'll get there.

[Sam_Brown]

BLM ........yeah, worthy cause and about time BUT, what a totally ineptly run organization. Who's in charge of the show? Where's the MLK, the John Lewis, the Ghandi, the Mandela?
1. Organize yerselves and keep it peaceful.
2. Own the violence in your communities, those lives don't seem to matter.
3. Stop telling me I'm racist and privileged.....I'm not and very sorry I was born white

Stay on task, have a consistent message, get a leadership and we'll get there.

I don't believe most people are aware there is a BLM organisation. At least not in the UK anyway. This may be an issue of semantics \ ciphers which always end up getting messy as different people may interpret the same phrase in different ways. I can only speak for myself but when I talk about BLM I am not referring to any one organisation or person and simply using it as a catch all to refer to the recent emphasis on dealing with racism and ensuring black people are treated equally as a whole.

This is something I'd like to think, regardless of our individual political ideologies, we can at least agree on.

[GreenBlue]

BLM ........yeah, worthy cause and about time BUT, what a totally ineptly run organization. Who's in charge of the show? Where's the MLK, the John Lewis, the Ghandi, the Mandela?
1. Organize yerselves and keep it peaceful.
2. Own the violence in your communities, those lives don't seem to matter.
3. Stop telling me I'm racist and privileged.....I'm not and very sorry I was born white

Stay on task, have a consistent message, get a leadership and we'll get there.

I don't believe most people are aware there is a BLM organisation. At least not in the UK anyway. This may be an issue of semantics \ ciphers which always end up getting messy as different people may interpret the same phrase in different ways. I can only speak for myself but when I talk about BLM I am not referring to any one organisation or person and simply using it as a catch all to refer to the recent emphasis on dealing with racism and ensuring black people are treated equally as a whole.

This is something I'd like to think, regardless of our individual political ideologies, we can at least agree on.

Ditto

[The Cincinnati Kid]

BLM ........yeah, worthy cause and about time BUT, what a totally ineptly run organization. Who's in charge of the show? Where's the MLK, the John Lewis, the Ghandi, the Mandela?
1. Organize yerselves and keep it peaceful.
2. Own the violence in your communities, those lives don't seem to matter.
3. Stop telling me I'm racist and privileged.....I'm not and very sorry I was born white

Stay on task, have a consistent message, get a leadership and we'll get there.

I don't believe most people are aware there is a BLM organisation. At least not in the UK anyway. This may be an issue of semantics \ ciphers which always end up getting messy as different people may interpret the same phrase in different ways. I can only speak for myself but when I talk about BLM I am not referring to any one organisation or person and simply using it as a catch all to refer to the recent emphasis on dealing with racism and ensuring black people are treated equally as a whole.

This is something I'd like to think, regardless of our individual political ideologies, we can at least agree on.

Ditto

yeah...very correct. There is an actual organization but more so its a generic term. Hence what I said, ie get a leadership and a message...is sorely needed otherwise it'll all drift away and resurface at the next instance of injustice which will mean we'll be in an endless cycle of getting nothing much meaningful accomplished.

[Dinksy]

BLM ........yeah, worthy cause and about time BUT, what a totally ineptly run organization. Who's in charge of the show? Where's the MLK, the John Lewis, the Ghandi, the Mandela?
1. Organize yerselves and keep it peaceful.
2. Own the violence in your communities, those lives don't seem to matter.
3. Stop telling me I'm racist and privileged.....I'm not and very sorry I was born white

Stay on task, have a consistent message, get a leadership and we'll get there.

I don't believe most people are aware there is a BLM organisation. At least not in the UK anyway. This may be an issue of semantics \ ciphers which always end up getting messy as different people may interpret the same phrase in different ways. I can only speak for myself but when I talk about BLM I am not referring to any one organisation or person and simply using it as a catch all to refer to the recent emphasis on dealing with racism and ensuring black people are treated equally as a whole.

This is something I'd like to think, regardless of our individual political ideologies, we can at least agree on.

The difference is simple to express:
Either you're talking about BLM or blm

[uspompeyfan]

Sorry US, you are blinkered by your blind devotion to the Republican party and to the right-wing press.

So, by your thinking, if all left wing media says one thing, and Fox News (as the only Right sided media) says another...... then the left wing media must be correct.

Do you not even contemplate that keeping a single storyline across all media could also be propaganda? I would give you the 3 year Russian conspiracy hoax.

All news channels claimed Trump to be guilty
All news channels claimed the (fake) dossier to be real and verified
No news channel apologized for their incorrect reporting when it was de-bunked and no reporter has been held accountable for their lack of following up on a storyline, except that of what their bosses said.......

Now the truth is slowly unravelling and the news media is going very quiet on the whole thing.....except one channel.

Are you seriously suggesting that all media, except Fox, is left-wing? That is very much taking the stance of "I'm not wrong, everyone else is." USPF, I know you are smarter than that and surely that was either a mis-type of a wind up. Either way, it made me chuckle.

I think you'll find it very widely noted in the US that this is the case. In multiple issues, there are montages where all the main stations (CBS, ABC, NBC) along with CNN and MSNBC will carry similar verbage to a situation. In most cases, these keywords are used by multiple broadcasters within the same channel, thus showing that the dialog is coming from above them or that it is a Universal way of thinking.

[uspompeyfan]

BLM ........yeah, worthy cause and about time BUT, what a totally ineptly run organization. Who's in charge of the show? Where's the MLK, the John Lewis, the Ghandi, the Mandela?
1. Organize yerselves and keep it peaceful.
2. Own the violence in your communities, those lives don't seem to matter.
3. Stop telling me I'm racist and privileged.....I'm not and very sorry I was born white

Stay on task, have a consistent message, get a leadership and we'll get there.

I'll agree with this

[uspompeyfan]

And I take it you missed hundreds of BLM dressed as a militia marching round Brixton shouting abuse at police and bystanders this weekend ?

As always at these sorts of protests you're going to end up with some less saveloy people turning up with the intention of just causing trouble.

And these people just show up? Or are they organized by ANIFA? There are reports of people getting paid a daily rate to infiltrate peaceful protests with the aim to create violence.

Yes that's one example of what I'm talking about. It happens on both sides.

While even the Right has its idiots, I would note that the left has been way more active in hating the current administration than the Right ever were. Trump rallys are on the whole family occasions filled with everyday people.... no riots except for the left protesting outside. I have bene to several.

[Sam_Brown]

And I take it you missed hundreds of BLM dressed as a militia marching round Brixton shouting abuse at police and bystanders this weekend ?

As always at these sorts of protests you're going to end up with some less saveloy people turning up with the intention of just causing trouble.

And these people just show up? Or are they organized by ANIFA? There are reports of people getting paid a daily rate to infiltrate peaceful protests with the aim to create violence.

Yes that's one example of what I'm talking about. It happens on both sides.

While even the Right has its idiots, I would note that the left has been way more active in hating the current administration than the Right ever were. Trump rallys are on the whole family occasions filled with everyday people.... no riots except for the left protesting outside. I have bene to several.

I'm aware of several protests during Obama's presidency that were, to coin a Trumpism, spicy. There have also been recent anti blm protests that have escalated as well.

Stop trying to paint this as a left vs right issue. There are d!ckheads on both sides and intolerance should be confronted regardless of if those involved are on the same side of the political spectrum as you.


https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... rack-obama

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ethel-ohio

[The Cincinnati Kid]

And I take it you missed hundreds of BLM dressed as a militia marching round Brixton shouting abuse at police and bystanders this weekend ?

As always at these sorts of protests you're going to end up with some less saveloy people turning up with the intention of just causing trouble.

And these people just show up? Or are they organized by ANIFA? There are reports of people getting paid a daily rate to infiltrate peaceful protests with the aim to create violence.

Yes that's one example of what I'm talking about. It happens on both sides.

While even the Right has its idiots, I would note that the left has been way more active in hating the current administration than the Right ever were. Trump rallys are on the whole family occasions filled with everyday people.... no riots except for the left protesting outside. I have bene to several.

I guess you missed the bit where they spit and swear at my kid covering the event as a "Fake News" journalist. And your missing the point here...YES the main media is hopelessly biased left but FOX, Limbaugh etc etc is biased right and I'd say worse...yet you live by and accept and parrot those versions of "news"....that's the point.

[uspompeyfan]

I guess you missed the bit where they spit and swear at my kid covering the event as a "Fake News" journalist. And your missing the point here...YES the main media is hopelessly biased left but FOX, Limbaugh etc etc is biased right and I'd say worse...yet you live by and accept and parrot those versions of "news"....that's the point.

I have accepted that Fox is the only Right sided viewpoint and I appreciate that you have confirmed the rest as Left biased. I have never said Fox News wasn't Right biased either. I cannot comment on events I haven't been to, and would agree that behavior isn't acceptable either.

While I have appeared on Hannity's radio show and once on Limbaugh too, I never hide my viewpoint. I do accept some middle ground stuff when it makes sense but typically, the Left side of the argument doesn't give ground.

Let us take the latest pandemic relief package for the unemployed.... Pelossi hasn't budged an inch, not even to cut out the 'green deal' garbage that typically has nothing to do with unemployment. If the Left cared, they would pass a temporary package while working on the rest, but they would rather watch the unemployed struggle to push the Republicans to make a deal without them giving anything......or am I wrong

I also notice no one has commented on the BLM manifesto as nothing more than a Marxist organization (oh, the three original people who started it are self-proclaimed marxists too)

[uspompeyfan]

I'm aware of several protests during Obama's presidency that were, to coin a Trumpism, spicy. There have also been recent anti blm protests that have escalated as well.

Stop trying to paint this as a left vs right issue. There are d!ckheads on both sides and intolerance should be confronted regardless of if those involved are on the same side of the political spectrum as you.


https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... rack-obama

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ethel-ohio

There were some Ultra Right White Power groups that protested and were roundly rebuked by Republicans as they should. Trump also denounced these as unacceptable.

TEA Party protests were almost always peaceful, and it was noted that ANTIFA did get paid protesters disguised in this group to set up the bad press.

[Sam_Brown]

I'm aware of several protests during Obama's presidency that were, to coin a Trumpism, spicy. There have also been recent anti blm protests that have escalated as well.

Stop trying to paint this as a left vs right issue. There are d!ckheads on both sides and intolerance should be confronted regardless of if those involved are on the same side of the political spectrum as you.


https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... rack-obama

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ethel-ohio

There were some Ultra Right White Power groups that protested and were roundly rebuked by Republicans as they should. Trump also denounced these as unacceptable.

TEA Party protests were almost always peaceful, and it was noted that ANTIFA did get paid protesters disguised in this group to set up the bad press.

Like I said it should be called out wherever it's found

[Sam_Brown]

I also notice no one has commented on the BLM manifesto as nothing more than a Marxist organization (oh, the three original people who started it are self-proclaimed marxists too)

I made a comment regarding BLM earlier that may be relevant to this.

I don't believe most people are aware there is a BLM organisation. At least not in the UK anyway. This may be an issue of semantics \ ciphers which always end up getting messy as different people may interpret the same phrase in different ways. I can only speak for myself but when I talk about BLM I am not referring to any one organisation or person and simply using it as a catch all to refer to the recent emphasis on dealing with racism and ensuring black people are treated equally as a whole.

This is something I'd like to think, regardless of our individual political ideologies, we can at least agree on.

If we spent more time talking about what we agree on and less time finding faults the world would be a better place.

On a side note I never got the obsession in the US with labelling things as "communist" or "marxist" as if that was a reason itself for why something is bad. I always felt like it was a cheap get out and a way to dismiss something without really having to go into details. Please don't take this the wrong way and it's meant mostly as humour but I do find it funny you quote Christ in your Signature who I would argue is the ultimate socialist!

[GreenBlue]

Please don't take this the wrong way and it's meant mostly as humour but I do find it funny you quote Christ in your Signature who I would argue is the ultimate socialist!

I get the impression that Mr Trumps, a devout Christian, would hate a such a brown skinned Middle eastern socialist if he was around today. Perhaps the only thing they would have in common would be their association with prostitutes... allegedly.