Mr D Nuts wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:57 pm
No, and having now read a more in depth report it appears the prime minister has just declared war on his own people with talk of bringing in the military.
I respect your honesty. I'm usually fairly libertarian but I look back to May \ June and when we were having over 1,000 deaths a day and just don't see that as acceptable. If there are things that can be done to reduce the chance of that happening again then, providing they are proportionate, I'm happy for them to be put in place again to, hopefully, avoid the same death rate or at least temper it as much as possible.
I'm a facts based guy though. If anyone can provide any sort of proof that those numbers decreasing in the time after lockdown was introduced was down to anything other than the measures put in place I'd be happy to reconsider my view.
Your point on side affects of people dying due to operations being cancelled etc is a fair one and the long term affects will be looked at for decades to come but don't forget these would be the same people who would have more chance of catching covid had they had to go to hospital and has we not seen the reduction in numbers in hospitals admissions over the last few months then it's highly unlikely that there would have been capacity for these people to have been see anyway.
To put things in perspective though I think it's fair to look at excess over the first half of the year compared to the previous years which stands at 65,000. While it's going to be difficult to know the exact number of long term deaths due to people not going to hospital due to beds being taken over with covid victims and operations being cancelled it's also worth bearing in mind there are long term affects of covid on people as well that will also need to be taken into account.
I find it ironic your main point was that you don't like the idea of people not being able to go to hospital but in my mind without the previous restrictions being put in place then hospitals would still be full of covid cases and without the new restrictions we could see the hospitals overrun meaning there would be no room for them anyway.