Alps air crash latest

[Locky_McLockface]

Co-Pilot crashed it deliberately, according to the French, who have listened to the voice recorder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32063587

Sheesh, what was going on in his life that he felt he had to kill himself and 150 innocent bystanders?

[Portchester PFC]

Christ, that is bad news if true.

The question is going to be asked if this is now a terrorist related incident, was he a convert of some sort etc.

[HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife]

There's no indication this is terrorist-linked. The lack of any Takbir (ie. "Allahu Akbar") in the cockpit transcript is a strong indicator it wasn't.

I assume the policy will now be to always have two people in the cockpit at any time...

[Ziggy Sawdust]

I was listening to the French prosecutor giving details in the live press conference. It made my blood run cold. Absolutely horrific. The co-pilot can't have planned it though because he just took his chance when the captain left the cockpit to go to the loo. Imagine those 8 minutes when the plane was descending. No, don't!

[Locky_McLockface]

There's no indication this is terrorist-linked. The lack of any Takbir (ie. "Allahu Akbar") in the cockpit transcript is a strong indicator it wasn't.

I assume the policy will now be to always have two people in the cockpit at any time...

Many airlines already have this policy in place - if a pilot steps out (eg toilet break) another member of the air crew must take their place. Sadly, Lufthansa and its subsidiaries do not.

SInce the fact that there is an emergency code available to get into the cockpit is now being blasted all around the internet, and terrorists everywhere are rubbing their hands with glee, I'd imagine that there will be some sort of shake-up in cockpit security in the coming months.

[Pompey1985]

There's no indication this is terrorist-linked. The lack of any Takbir (ie. "Allahu Akbar") in the cockpit transcript is a strong indicator it wasn't.

I assume the policy will now be to always have two people in the cockpit at any time...

Many airlines already have this policy in place - if a pilot steps out (eg toilet break) another member of the air crew must take their place. Sadly, Lufthansa and its subsidiaries do not.

SInce the fact that there is an emergency code available to get into the cockpit is now being blasted all around the internet, and terrorists everywhere are rubbing their hands with glee, I'd imagine that there will be some sort of shake-up in cockpit security in the coming months.

Do terrorists still bother trying to hijack planes? surely there are easier ways to spread their 'message'

[RubiconCSL]

At least it would appear that passengers didn't realise until the last few seconds as apparently they were only heard screaming right at the end. Doesn't make those last few moments any easier, but at least they apparently didn't know 8 minutes in advance of what was going to happen.

I was listening to the French prosecutor giving details in the live press conference. It made my blood run cold. Absolutely horrific. The co-pilot can't have planned it though because he just took his chance when the captain left the cockpit to go to the loo. Imagine those 8 minutes when the plane was descending. No, don't!

[Ziggy Sawdust]

At least it would appear that passengers didn't realise until the last few seconds as apparently they were only heard screaming right at the end. Doesn't make those last few moments any easier, but at least they apparently didn't know 8 minutes in advance of what was going to happen.

I was listening to the French prosecutor giving details in the live press conference. It made my blood run cold. Absolutely horrific. The co-pilot can't have planned it though because he just took his chance when the captain left the cockpit to go to the loo. Imagine those 8 minutes when the plane was descending. No, don't!

Wouldn't they have seen the captain banging on the door trying to get in and the mountains getting closer?

[Pompey1985]

At least it would appear that passengers didn't realise until the last few seconds as apparently they were only heard screaming right at the end. Doesn't make those last few moments any easier, but at least they apparently didn't know 8 minutes in advance of what was going to happen.

I was listening to the French prosecutor giving details in the live press conference. It made my blood run cold. Absolutely horrific. The co-pilot can't have planned it though because he just took his chance when the captain left the cockpit to go to the loo. Imagine those 8 minutes when the plane was descending. No, don't!

Wouldn't they have seen the captain banging on the door trying to get in and the mountains getting closer?

Guessing it took a few minutes to know what was happening.

[Pompey Gary]

At least it would appear that passengers didn't realise until the last few seconds as apparently they were only heard screaming right at the end. Doesn't make those last few moments any easier, but at least they apparently didn't know 8 minutes in advance of what was going to happen.

Actually, the quote from the press conference specifies that the passengers' screams couldn't be heard until the last few minutes.

[HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife]

There's no indication this is terrorist-linked. The lack of any Takbir (ie. "Allahu Akbar") in the cockpit transcript is a strong indicator it wasn't.

I assume the policy will now be to always have two people in the cockpit at any time...

Many airlines already have this policy in place - if a pilot steps out (eg toilet break) another member of the air crew must take their place. Sadly, Lufthansa and its subsidiaries do not.

SInce the fact that there is an emergency code available to get into the cockpit is now being blasted all around the internet, and terrorists everywhere are rubbing their hands with glee, I'd imagine that there will be some sort of shake-up in cockpit security in the coming months.

The code has to be accepted by the pilot in the cockpit. He can still refuse entry and keep the door locked, which is what happened in this instance. If the pilot does not acknowledge the code (eg they're unconscious), the door opens automatically.

[Pompey Dave]

There's no indication this is terrorist-linked. The lack of any Takbir (ie. "Allahu Akbar") in the cockpit transcript is a strong indicator it wasn't.

I assume the policy will now be to always have two people in the cockpit at any time...

There are other "makes" of terrorist.

[HappyHour@TheBreweryOfLife]

There's no indication this is terrorist-linked. The lack of any Takbir (ie. "Allahu Akbar") in the cockpit transcript is a strong indicator it wasn't.

I assume the policy will now be to always have two people in the cockpit at any time...

There are other "makes" of terrorist.

None that would also carry out this type of long-term suicide operation though.

[Earl Grey]

From the BBC site: "We have found something which will now be taken for tests. We cannot say what it is at the moment but it may be a very significant clue to what has happened," the Daily Mail quoted police spokesman Markus Niesczery as saying.

Not a suicide note, apparently.

[Locky_McLockface]

A number of airlines have had a "minimum of 2 crew in the cockpit at all times" policy for a number of years.

Whoever it was at Lufthansa that said "Nah, we don't need that" must be kicking himself big-time.