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I'd still love to see Hoddle have another chance. The only footballing error (forgetting the other stuff for a minute) he made was giving in to pressure to start Beckham, when he wasn't ready to start a game yet and that led to the sending off. In that pre WC tournament, he showed his temperament wasn't quite right yet when he tugged the ref's shirt. But all the "experts" on the BBC and ITV went on and on and he gave in in my opinion. I think he has a great coaching head on his shoulders. Only other issue would be recent experience - when did he last manage? I quite like the idea of him and Howe though.
And let's face it, who the hell (that is good enough) would want to that job! They are all earning multi-millions a year now, so the money wouldn't attract the best. Add the British gutter press to the equation and I can't think of anyone worth their salt looking at it. Mind you, I'd do it for 67 days and get a 7 figure pay off - no problem
Like many, trust few and always paddle you own canoe.
Mickemo wrote:Howe & Hoddle would be a good combination
Genius idea, Mickemo.
Both football purists so at least we'd have attractive football even if we didn't win anything.....but I think it would be successful.
As previously mentioned, i don't think Howe will go for it, i think he needs another prem management post before he takes on something like the England job/assistant job as if it all goes Pete Tong he will harm his career.
The Cincinnati Kid wrote:dear oh dear what a total nob.
And worse...the only guy I see out there is Steve "Boring" Bruce
ffs
Yeah, that's what I fear. There's a lack a credible options around if it must be an Englishman.
Btw, the Scott McGarvey involved in this affair, does anyone know if that's the same Scott McGarvey who played so brilliantly for Pompey in the mid-80s?
Certainly appears to be the same guy. Unless Man U had two Scott McGarveys.
Two Scott McGarveys....there's only Two Scott McGarveys......Twooooo Scott McGarveeeeeys....etc etc
past memories wrote:Apparently, Allardyce has gone with a £1.000,000 compensation. WTF ?
Allardyce was seriously in the wrong here, but he held all the cards in dealing with the FA once they had decided he had to go. He could hang on as long as he wanted, and was happy to take the flak from the media, and force the FA though the whole process of trying to sack him. The probable outcome being that the FA would end up paying most of his contract anyway, plus all the costs on their side of the process, plus the embarrassment, plus the uncertainty around the England team. In the modern world, anyone who hasn't dealt with leaving a job in their contract and put themselves in a position to negotiate a serious severance package is just asking for trouble, and I am sure Allardyce's agent wouldn't make such a basic error.
past memories wrote:Apparently, Allardyce has gone with a £1.000,000 compensation. WTF ?
Allardyce was seriously in the wrong here, but he held all the cards in dealing with the FA once they had decided he had to go. He could hang on as long as he wanted, and was happy to take the flak from the media, and force the FA though the whole process of trying to sack him. The probable outcome being that the FA would end up paying most of his contract anyway, plus all the costs on their side of the process, plus the embarrassment, plus the uncertainty around the England team. In the modern world, anyone who hasn't dealt with leaving a job in their contract and put themselves in a position to negotiate a serious severance package is just asking for trouble, and I am sure Allardyce's agent wouldn't make such a basic error.
a basic error like getting to have a meeting with people he hasn't checked out and agreeing to do dodgy deal with
past memories wrote:Apparently, Allardyce has gone with a £1.000,000 compensation. WTF ?
Allardyce was seriously in the wrong here, but he held all the cards in dealing with the FA once they had decided he had to go. He could hang on as long as he wanted, and was happy to take the flak from the media, and force the FA though the whole process of trying to sack him. The probable outcome being that the FA would end up paying most of his contract anyway, plus all the costs on their side of the process, plus the embarrassment, plus the uncertainty around the England team. In the modern world, anyone who hasn't dealt with leaving a job in their contract and put themselves in a position to negotiate a serious severance package is just asking for trouble, and I am sure Allardyce's agent wouldn't make such a basic error.
a basic error like getting to have a meeting with people he hasn't checked out and agreeing to do dodgy deal with
True, but the England manager meets loads of people he doesn't know every day. They can't all be vetted by an agent. It was up to Allardyce to never say anything controversial; he has been in the game long enough to know.
You know that anti-corruption stance you’ve been a driving force behind for years now? That one, despite accusations to the contrary you’ve ultimately been vindicated of and helped to change the governance of world football?
Well, I’ve figured out a way to earn £400,000 by circumventing the laws you put in place to aid that transparency.
That'd be ok, right?
Sam
"Look, we've all got something to contribute to this discussion. And I think what you should contribute from now on is silence."
past memories wrote:Apparently, Allardyce has gone with a £1.000,000 compensation. WTF ?
Allardyce was seriously in the wrong here, but he held all the cards in dealing with the FA once they had decided he had to go. He could hang on as long as he wanted, and was happy to take the flak from the media, and force the FA though the whole process of trying to sack him. The probable outcome being that the FA would end up paying most of his contract anyway, plus all the costs on their side of the process, plus the embarrassment, plus the uncertainty around the England team. In the modern world, anyone who hasn't dealt with leaving a job in their contract and put themselves in a position to negotiate a serious severance package is just asking for trouble, and I am sure Allardyce's agent wouldn't make such a basic error.
a basic error like getting to have a meeting with people he hasn't checked out and agreeing to do dodgy deal with
True, but the England manager meets loads of people he doesn't know every day. They can't all be vetted by an agent. It was up to Allardyce to never say anything controversial; he has been in the game long enough to know.
I agree PP, but this was a meeting specifically set up by his agent, it wasn't just a random meet. I am sure sam wouldn't agree to a bung if you just walked up to him, but if his agent has told him he has a meeting about a deal, he probably assumed that the agent thought they were kosher