Ipswich & Plymouth Spends 21/22

[blue architect]

We need new blood!

Agreed. We obviously need new board owners willing to spend beyond our means to bring in the best posting talent. I mean, yes Rubi has put in significant investment to increase the functionality of the board, but where's the investment in the posters? I don't know about everyone else, but the turgid, insipid, dull posting here has me wondering if the regulars will renew next season. Every week is a new worst display. It's time for the owners to make a statement of intent, on the board, not tarting it up behind the scenes. Splash the cash, even if we don't have it, and take this board back where it belongs!

Winner of best post of the month

[New Forester]

Look where they are this evening!

Who?

Ipswich and Plymouth?

Proves we must never make assumptions that anyone knows what we mean.

[Sam_Brown]

We need new blood!

Agreed. We obviously need new board owners willing to spend beyond our means to bring in the best posting talent. I mean, yes Rubi has put in significant investment to increase the functionality of the board, but where's the investment in the posters? I don't know about everyone else, but the turgid, insipid, dull posting here has me wondering if the regulars will renew next season. Every week is a new worst display. It's time for the owners to make a statement of intent, on the board, not tarting it up behind the scenes. Splash the cash, even if we don't have it, and take this board back where it belongs!

Brilliant .

[Blue Walter]

Look where they are this evening!

Who?

Ipswich and Plymouth?

Proves we must never make assumptions that anyone knows what we mean.

That's something I do all the time apparently!

[Portchesterblue2]

Plymouth finished 7th, we were 10th Ipswich 11th.

NO NO NO NO NO that cannot be right.
how did we finish above ipswich, after all they spent big on the playing staff so they must have been way better than us, there is no chance on this earth that a team that doesnt spend the most on players finishes above one that does

That’s why I don’t like the argument that we should just throw money at problems in general. Yes money will definitely help but if you do throw money at it and it doesn’t work the argument is always “we need to spend more”.

Of course spending lots of money on a team does not guarantee success. It obviously helps and makes the task easier. But, for those using a touch of sarcasm obviously aimed at those who would like to see the club make more money available for team building, I would ask is team building easier done in the bargain basement or with money to spend? Generally the teams at the top of leagues are the ones that have spent most money. Plymouth are one of the exceptions and shows that prudent spending and creative recruitment can succeed. However, if Plymouth go up this season I wonder how they will fare and if they will be able to sustain their position. Other clubs have done it using the cheap option such as Burton and Scunthorpe and look what's happened to the Iron. Blackpool is another example of promotion on a budget but they are perennial strugglers in the Championship. Of course spending more than a club can afford has more catastrophic dangers than mere relegation. Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors.

All I really would like is the club to be a little more honest over our future. Saying they want promotion needs to be backed up with deeds. Not cloaking the vision with 'competitive' budgets or talk. They are doing a brilliant job elsewhere with our club but the next step requires more in my veiw. I don't think expecting rabbits to be pulled out of a hat to be successful type of vision. If they want promotion soon does that mean they think the infrastructure rebuild is done, or up to what they want, and now they are going for it? Or does it mean another hopeful punt?

i was being sarcastic because thats all people ever say on here, the owners arent spending enough money and its BS none of us know how much our budget is was will be, and it never will be made public...i hope.
The arguments as to why have been done to death, they have made money available when it has been asked for, Morrel a prime example. If those players, or the way the manager has used them, have not resulted in promotion that is not laid at the owners door for not spending money.
as for the transparancy, it aint ever going to happen, no team in their right mind is going to tell the world how much they have to spend on players are they?? oh hello everyone we need some new players and we have £1m to buy them, we would like to buy your player x for £300k. Erm no sorry he is going to cost £750k now i know how much cash you have to splash

Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors. and there is the argument for not throwing money at it. We tried that in the prem and look where we ended up

I wasn't talking about transparency on how much the budget is, which is rather obvious. I was talking about where we are with their vision and where we go from this point. I don't know why you assume I was talking about spending the sort spending we were involved in during the Premiership days. Any sane person will know how wrong that was and where it leads to so I suppose, perhaps, you put that in to ridicule my opinion to make yours more sensible. You are right that we don't know what the budgets have been but I would suggest that in most of the last six seasons outing transfers have paid for most of the incoming transfers.

Walter, if you believe I was just trying to ridicule you then I am sorry, never my intention.
I never said you did say we should spend the sort of money we did in the prem, but you were asking for the owners to spend more, which would be beyond our means and not sustainable, whcih is what we did in the prem, which was my point, clearly one I made badly

well if you dont know where the vision is then you best join the coalition

[Portchesterblue2]

Plymouth finished 7th, we were 10th Ipswich 11th.

NO NO NO NO NO that cannot be right.
how did we finish above ipswich, after all they spent big on the playing staff so they must have been way better than us, there is no chance on this earth that a team that doesnt spend the most on players finishes above one that does

That’s why I don’t like the argument that we should just throw money at problems in general. Yes money will definitely help but if you do throw money at it and it doesn’t work the argument is always “we need to spend more”.

Of course spending lots of money on a team does not guarantee success. It obviously helps and makes the task easier. But, for those using a touch of sarcasm obviously aimed at those who would like to see the club make more money available for team building, I would ask is team building easier done in the bargain basement or with money to spend? Generally the teams at the top of leagues are the ones that have spent most money. Plymouth are one of the exceptions and shows that prudent spending and creative recruitment can succeed. However, if Plymouth go up this season I wonder how they will fare and if they will be able to sustain their position. Other clubs have done it using the cheap option such as Burton and Scunthorpe and look what's happened to the Iron. Blackpool is another example of promotion on a budget but they are perennial strugglers in the Championship. Of course spending more than a club can afford has more catastrophic dangers than mere relegation. Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors.

All I really would like is the club to be a little more honest over our future. Saying they want promotion needs to be backed up with deeds. Not cloaking the vision with 'competitive' budgets or talk. They are doing a brilliant job elsewhere with our club but the next step requires more in my veiw. I don't think expecting rabbits to be pulled out of a hat to be successful type of vision. If they want promotion soon does that mean they think the infrastructure rebuild is done, or up to what they want, and now they are going for it? Or does it mean another hopeful punt?

i was being sarcastic because thats all people ever say on here, the owners arent spending enough money and its BS none of us know how much our budget is was will be, and it never will be made public...i hope.
The arguments as to why have been done to death, they have made money available when it has been asked for, Morrel a prime example. If those players, or the way the manager has used them, have not resulted in promotion that is not laid at the owners door for not spending money.
as for the transparancy, it aint ever going to happen, no team in their right mind is going to tell the world how much they have to spend on players are they?? oh hello everyone we need some new players and we have £1m to buy them, we would like to buy your player x for £300k. Erm no sorry he is going to cost £750k now i know how much cash you have to splash

Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors. and there is the argument for not throwing money at it. We tried that in the prem and look where we ended up

I wasn't talking about transparency on how much the budget is, which is rather obvious. I was talking about where we are with their vision and where we go from this point. I don't know why you assume I was talking about spending the sort spending we were involved in during the Premiership days. Any sane person will know how wrong that was and where it leads to so I suppose, perhaps, you put that in to ridicule my opinion to make yours more sensible. You are right that we don't know what the budgets have been but I would suggest that in most of the last six seasons outing transfers have paid for most of the incoming transfers.

There's no inbetween with Portchy, he thinks you want to bankrupt the club by asking the owners to increase the budget.

and you believe that because he is a billionaire he should soend it whatever, although they havent spent a penny so far have they

[Sam_Brown]

Only thing I thought I’d add is that had Gaydamak not lost access to his money or whatever happened things could have turned out very differently for us.

I imagine most clubs in the prem aren’t run sustainably.

Especially not the ones with any sort of realistic chance winning anything.

I’m very much of the opinion I’d like to see the club run sustainably to avoid the risk of being screwed again but also appreciate that’s not going to give us much of a competitive edge over other teams.

[Blue Walter]

Plymouth finished 7th, we were 10th Ipswich 11th.

NO NO NO NO NO that cannot be right.
how did we finish above ipswich, after all they spent big on the playing staff so they must have been way better than us, there is no chance on this earth that a team that doesnt spend the most on players finishes above one that does

That’s why I don’t like the argument that we should just throw money at problems in general. Yes money will definitely help but if you do throw money at it and it doesn’t work the argument is always “we need to spend more”.

Of course spending lots of money on a team does not guarantee success. It obviously helps and makes the task easier. But, for those using a touch of sarcasm obviously aimed at those who would like to see the club make more money available for team building, I would ask is team building easier done in the bargain basement or with money to spend? Generally the teams at the top of leagues are the ones that have spent most money. Plymouth are one of the exceptions and shows that prudent spending and creative recruitment can succeed. However, if Plymouth go up this season I wonder how they will fare and if they will be able to sustain their position. Other clubs have done it using the cheap option such as Burton and Scunthorpe and look what's happened to the Iron. Blackpool is another example of promotion on a budget but they are perennial strugglers in the Championship. Of course spending more than a club can afford has more catastrophic dangers than mere relegation. Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors.

All I really would like is the club to be a little more honest over our future. Saying they want promotion needs to be backed up with deeds. Not cloaking the vision with 'competitive' budgets or talk. They are doing a brilliant job elsewhere with our club but the next step requires more in my veiw. I don't think expecting rabbits to be pulled out of a hat to be successful type of vision. If they want promotion soon does that mean they think the infrastructure rebuild is done, or up to what they want, and now they are going for it? Or does it mean another hopeful punt?

i was being sarcastic because thats all people ever say on here, the owners arent spending enough money and its BS none of us know how much our budget is was will be, and it never will be made public...i hope.
The arguments as to why have been done to death, they have made money available when it has been asked for, Morrel a prime example. If those players, or the way the manager has used them, have not resulted in promotion that is not laid at the owners door for not spending money.
as for the transparancy, it aint ever going to happen, no team in their right mind is going to tell the world how much they have to spend on players are they?? oh hello everyone we need some new players and we have £1m to buy them, we would like to buy your player x for £300k. Erm no sorry he is going to cost £750k now i know how much cash you have to splash

Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors. and there is the argument for not throwing money at it. We tried that in the prem and look where we ended up

I wasn't talking about transparency on how much the budget is, which is rather obvious. I was talking about where we are with their vision and where we go from this point. I don't know why you assume I was talking about spending the sort spending we were involved in during the Premiership days. Any sane person will know how wrong that was and where it leads to so I suppose, perhaps, you put that in to ridicule my opinion to make yours more sensible. You are right that we don't know what the budgets have been but I would suggest that in most of the last six seasons outing transfers have paid for most of the incoming transfers.

Walter, if you believe I was just trying to ridicule you then I am sorry, never my intention.
I never said you did say we should spend the sort of money we did in the prem, but you were asking for the owners to spend more, which would be beyond our means and not sustainable, whcih is what we did in the prem, which was my point, clearly one I made badly

well if you dont know where the vision is then you best join the coalition

I have said many times that I don't think the club should go any near the sort of spending of the past. I have never said we should try and match Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday in the spending stakes. What I have said is that I would like to see the spending increased from mid table spending to give us a better chance of competing at the top end of the table. Apparently we have been placed around eighth behind Shrewsbury in the budget stakes, which is about where we are going to finish in the league. If you had read my posts you will have noted that I have never said we should ever go beyond our means as a club, so to claim I have is an exaggeration. Before you remind me that the owners are footing the bill for all the off field rebuild they always said that the playing side of the club is separate from the rest of the club, which includes team funding. We get three times the crowds that Shrewsbury get so I would like to think we can compete with them budget wise on team funding. So to suggest I have said anything more than that is, ridicule, exaggerated and untrue.

As for your suggestion that I join the Coalition I will take as a sign that you don't read my posts or you look for ways to ridicule. If you did you will have noted that I asked the question of where we are with their vision. I asked at what point do they think the infrastructure rebuild is ready for elevation. I don't suppose you are really interested in what I think anyway as I disagree with you so you are blinkered in your responses.

[New Forester]

I’m with BW all the way in his thinking. The Eisner’s clearly have a long term commitment to the club. I trust them to adopt a strategy that secures the club a position in the football leagues compatible with the financial viability of the club. It would be wonderful to think they could one day be the club they were when I first watched them in 1949. If they do I’ll be long gone. Meanwhile let’s enjoy the ride.

[Blue Walter]

Plymouth finished 7th, we were 10th Ipswich 11th.

NO NO NO NO NO that cannot be right.
how did we finish above ipswich, after all they spent big on the playing staff so they must have been way better than us, there is no chance on this earth that a team that doesnt spend the most on players finishes above one that does

That’s why I don’t like the argument that we should just throw money at problems in general. Yes money will definitely help but if you do throw money at it and it doesn’t work the argument is always “we need to spend more”.

Of course spending lots of money on a team does not guarantee success. It obviously helps and makes the task easier. But, for those using a touch of sarcasm obviously aimed at those who would like to see the club make more money available for team building, I would ask is team building easier done in the bargain basement or with money to spend? Generally the teams at the top of leagues are the ones that have spent most money. Plymouth are one of the exceptions and shows that prudent spending and creative recruitment can succeed. However, if Plymouth go up this season I wonder how they will fare and if they will be able to sustain their position. Other clubs have done it using the cheap option such as Burton and Scunthorpe and look what's happened to the Iron. Blackpool is another example of promotion on a budget but they are perennial strugglers in the Championship. Of course spending more than a club can afford has more catastrophic dangers than mere relegation. Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors.

All I really would like is the club to be a little more honest over our future. Saying they want promotion needs to be backed up with deeds. Not cloaking the vision with 'competitive' budgets or talk. They are doing a brilliant job elsewhere with our club but the next step requires more in my veiw. I don't think expecting rabbits to be pulled out of a hat to be successful type of vision. If they want promotion soon does that mean they think the infrastructure rebuild is done, or up to what they want, and now they are going for it? Or does it mean another hopeful punt?

i was being sarcastic because thats all people ever say on here, the owners arent spending enough money and its BS none of us know how much our budget is was will be, and it never will be made public...i hope.
The arguments as to why have been done to death, they have made money available when it has been asked for, Morrel a prime example. If those players, or the way the manager has used them, have not resulted in promotion that is not laid at the owners door for not spending money.
as for the transparancy, it aint ever going to happen, no team in their right mind is going to tell the world how much they have to spend on players are they?? oh hello everyone we need some new players and we have £1m to buy them, we would like to buy your player x for £300k. Erm no sorry he is going to cost £750k now i know how much cash you have to splash

Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors. and there is the argument for not throwing money at it. We tried that in the prem and look where we ended up

I wasn't talking about transparency on how much the budget is, which is rather obvious. I was talking about where we are with their vision and where we go from this point. I don't know why you assume I was talking about spending the sort spending we were involved in during the Premiership days. Any sane person will know how wrong that was and where it leads to so I suppose, perhaps, you put that in to ridicule my opinion to make yours more sensible. You are right that we don't know what the budgets have been but I would suggest that in most of the last six seasons outing transfers have paid for most of the incoming transfers.

There's no inbetween with Portchy, he thinks you want to bankrupt the club by asking the owners to increase the budget.

and you believe that because he is a billionaire he should soend it whatever, although they havent spent a penny so far have they

Again another silly response. Of course I have acknowledged that the owners have spent money, but I don't suppose you have read that. They have spent money on the ground and on the whole operation and kept the club debt free, as I have acknowledged which you must have missed. Yes he is a billionaire and could easily spend more but he is running the club as a sustainable business rather than a play thing.

However, may I remind you that seven years ago Mr Eisner told us that if we wanted to stay in League One and just keep the ground operational with a youth academy at the lower level "then we didn't need" him. We are still in League One and the academy is still at category 3. He said if we wanted to be challenging at the top of the league and the challenging for a return to the Premiership "he was that guy". Well there is no dispute that they are doing critical work on the ground and the club is underpinned financially. But we are no nearer challenging the top of the league than we were 7 years ago and all the time we have to sell our best players to fund our incoming transfers we will, most likely, be in League One for a while longer.

[Blue Walter]

I’m with BW all the way in his thinking. The Eisner’s clearly have a long term commitment to the club. I trust them to adopt a strategy that secures the club a position in the football leagues compatible with the financial viability of the club. It would be wonderful to think they could one day be the club they were when I first watched them in 1949. If they do I’ll be long gone. Meanwhile let’s enjoy the ride.

Thank you New Forester. Anyone would think I was being unreasonable with my veiw judging by the responses I get sometimes by certain people.

I started watching them a bit later than you and I have seen them in all division of the Football League, much like yourself no doubt. I agree with you that I think the Eisner's are in it for the long haul and have ambition for the club. I do think however that the longer we stay at this level apathy will set in again as it has before. What we need is a successful team that will bring in younger people that will stay with the club. With apathy the crowd attendances will drop which will affect the longer term support for the club. At the moment we have a loyal fan base but without youngsters being excited by the local team there won't be supporters to take over that role. A bit of speculation now could save the future supporters of tomorrow drifting away.

[Pompey1984+1]

Again another silly response. Of course I have acknowledged that the owners have spent money, but I don't suppose you have read that. They have spent money on the ground and on the whole operation and kept the club debt free, as I have acknowledged which you must have missed. Yes he is a billionaire and could easily spend more but he is running the club as a sustainable business rather than a play thing.

However, may I remind you that seven years ago Mr Eisner told us that if we wanted to stay in League One and just keep the ground operational with a youth academy at the lower level "then we didn't need" him. We are still in League One and the academy is still at category 3. He said if we wanted to be challenging at the top of the league and the challenging for a return to the Premiership "he was that guy". Well there is no dispute that they are doing critical work on the ground and the club is underpinned financially. But we are no nearer challenging the top of the league than we were 7 years ago and all the time we have to sell our best players to fund our incoming transfers we will, most likely, be in League One for a while longer.

Does the fact that we make a loss each year that they underwrite not demonstrate, that what he said was actually wrong, and that actually, to stand still we did need someone?

Also I don't recall a deadline being put on it, as a bit of a philanthropist I'm not even sure Micheal expects to see us rise to such levels himself but under the stewardship of his family.

[Betelgeuse]

Plymouth finished 7th, we were 10th Ipswich 11th.

NO NO NO NO NO that cannot be right.
how did we finish above ipswich, after all they spent big on the playing staff so they must have been way better than us, there is no chance on this earth that a team that doesnt spend the most on players finishes above one that does

That’s why I don’t like the argument that we should just throw money at problems in general. Yes money will definitely help but if you do throw money at it and it doesn’t work the argument is always “we need to spend more”.

Of course spending lots of money on a team does not guarantee success. It obviously helps and makes the task easier. But, for those using a touch of sarcasm obviously aimed at those who would like to see the club make more money available for team building, I would ask is team building easier done in the bargain basement or with money to spend? Generally the teams at the top of leagues are the ones that have spent most money. Plymouth are one of the exceptions and shows that prudent spending and creative recruitment can succeed. However, if Plymouth go up this season I wonder how they will fare and if they will be able to sustain their position. Other clubs have done it using the cheap option such as Burton and Scunthorpe and look what's happened to the Iron. Blackpool is another example of promotion on a budget but they are perennial strugglers in the Championship. Of course spending more than a club can afford has more catastrophic dangers than mere relegation. Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors.

All I really would like is the club to be a little more honest over our future. Saying they want promotion needs to be backed up with deeds. Not cloaking the vision with 'competitive' budgets or talk. They are doing a brilliant job elsewhere with our club but the next step requires more in my veiw. I don't think expecting rabbits to be pulled out of a hat to be successful type of vision. If they want promotion soon does that mean they think the infrastructure rebuild is done, or up to what they want, and now they are going for it? Or does it mean another hopeful punt?

i was being sarcastic because thats all people ever say on here, the owners arent spending enough money and its BS none of us know how much our budget is was will be, and it never will be made public...i hope.
The arguments as to why have been done to death, they have made money available when it has been asked for, Morrel a prime example. If those players, or the way the manager has used them, have not resulted in promotion that is not laid at the owners door for not spending money.
as for the transparancy, it aint ever going to happen, no team in their right mind is going to tell the world how much they have to spend on players are they?? oh hello everyone we need some new players and we have £1m to buy them, we would like to buy your player x for £300k. Erm no sorry he is going to cost £750k now i know how much cash you have to splash

Ipswich on the other hand look like they have successfully purchased promotion and I fully expect to see them competing for a place in the Premiership in the near future. As for Sheffield Wednesday I wonder if they have shot their bolt and failure this season could well mean a visit from the debt collectors. and there is the argument for not throwing money at it. We tried that in the prem and look where we ended up

I wasn't talking about transparency on how much the budget is, which is rather obvious. I was talking about where we are with their vision and where we go from this point. I don't know why you assume I was talking about spending the sort spending we were involved in during the Premiership days. Any sane person will know how wrong that was and where it leads to so I suppose, perhaps, you put that in to ridicule my opinion to make yours more sensible. You are right that we don't know what the budgets have been but I would suggest that in most of the last six seasons outing transfers have paid for most of the incoming transfers.

There's no inbetween with Portchy, he thinks you want to bankrupt the club by asking the owners to increase the budget.

and you believe that because he is a billionaire he should soend it whatever, although they havent spent a penny so far have they

Again another silly response. Of course I have acknowledged that the owners have spent money, but I don't suppose you have read that. They have spent money on the ground and on the whole operation and kept the club debt free, as I have acknowledged which you must have missed. Yes he is a billionaire and could easily spend more but he is running the club as a sustainable business rather than a play thing.

However, may I remind you that seven years ago Mr Eisner told us that if we wanted to stay in League One and just keep the ground operational with a youth academy at the lower level "then we didn't need" him. We are still in League One and the academy is still at category 3. He said if we wanted to be challenging at the top of the league and the challenging for a return to the Premiership "he was that guy". Well there is no dispute that they are doing critical work on the ground and the club is underpinned financially. But we are no nearer challenging the top of the league than we were 7 years ago and all the time we have to sell our best players to fund our incoming transfers we will, most likely, be in League One for a while longer.

I think Portchy's comment was aimed at me BW. I'm pretty sure he doesn't expect a promotion budget from a billionaire owner, however...I do after 6 years in this league and other than the tarted up stadium, the other plans haven't even started.

[Betelgeuse]

Again another silly response. Of course I have acknowledged that the owners have spent money, but I don't suppose you have read that. They have spent money on the ground and on the whole operation and kept the club debt free, as I have acknowledged which you must have missed. Yes he is a billionaire and could easily spend more but he is running the club as a sustainable business rather than a play thing.

However, may I remind you that seven years ago Mr Eisner told us that if we wanted to stay in League One and just keep the ground operational with a youth academy at the lower level "then we didn't need" him. We are still in League One and the academy is still at category 3. He said if we wanted to be challenging at the top of the league and the challenging for a return to the Premiership "he was that guy". Well there is no dispute that they are doing critical work on the ground and the club is underpinned financially. But we are no nearer challenging the top of the league than we were 7 years ago and all the time we have to sell our best players to fund our incoming transfers we will, most likely, be in League One for a while longer.

Does the fact that we make a loss each year that they underwrite not demonstrate, that what he said was actually wrong, and that actually, to stand still we did need someone?

Also I don't recall a deadline being put on it, as a bit of a philanthropist I'm not even sure Micheal expects to see us rise to such levels himself but under the stewardship of his family.

I don't expect us to be getting gates of 18k if we remain a mid table club in this league for much longer.

[Pompey1984+1]

Again another silly response. Of course I have acknowledged that the owners have spent money, but I don't suppose you have read that. They have spent money on the ground and on the whole operation and kept the club debt free, as I have acknowledged which you must have missed. Yes he is a billionaire and could easily spend more but he is running the club as a sustainable business rather than a play thing.

However, may I remind you that seven years ago Mr Eisner told us that if we wanted to stay in League One and just keep the ground operational with a youth academy at the lower level "then we didn't need" him. We are still in League One and the academy is still at category 3. He said if we wanted to be challenging at the top of the league and the challenging for a return to the Premiership "he was that guy". Well there is no dispute that they are doing critical work on the ground and the club is underpinned financially. But we are no nearer challenging the top of the league than we were 7 years ago and all the time we have to sell our best players to fund our incoming transfers we will, most likely, be in League One for a while longer.

Does the fact that we make a loss each year that they underwrite not demonstrate, that what he said was actually wrong, and that actually, to stand still we did need someone?

Also I don't recall a deadline being put on it, as a bit of a philanthropist I'm not even sure Micheal expects to see us rise to such levels himself but under the stewardship of his family.

I don't expect us to be getting gates of 18k if we remain a mid table club in this league for much longer.

No your right, they will probably be higher with the increased capacity.

Price of tickets against the cost of living crisis might knock a few off, but I suspect season tickets will remain around the same level.