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Re: Pompey vs Luton

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Of course Silvera cannot play next saturday. We have a choice of left wingers: Ritchie, Murphy if fit, Lane (and bring in the Invisible Man on the right wing] Gavin Whyte not Scully
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I hope to god we have some new players through the door this week, I could almost predict the 2nd half would be frustrating. We really need some extra quality and pace in attack.
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It is not the first time we have failed to beat a team with ten men. We still lack the killer instinct and a good scoring forward.
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Rjk66 wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:20 am It is not the first time we have failed to beat a team with ten men. We still lack the killer instinct and a good scoring forward.
They are both injured at the moment
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NSRailings wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:44 pm
Pompey55 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:32 pm
BlueinPLtwenty wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:31 pm For a left winger Silvera is all right foot too predictable
Exactly what I expected that is what Middlesbrough fans said when he came to us some good ability but predictable and no final ball
Except that he did start to use his left foot as BluePL wrote later. Some of his crossing was bad, but he was one of the few who actually wanted to have a go and there was some final ball on occasion. So he's worth sticking with for now as hopefully the coaching team will work to improve his play.
He did see a lot of the ball but, for me, he wasted most of it. I think the reason why Silvera saw so much of the ball was down to our numerical advantage after the sending off. Luton changed their game to shore up the central defensive area which resulted in the wing areas being less populated, especially on the left. I was rather hoping that we made a switch and had Ritchie doing the crossing, which is his forte. I can't say I was overly impressed by Silvera but I think he did have moments when he looked like he could be good.
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Blue Walter wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:21 am
NSRailings wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:44 pm
Pompey55 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:32 pm
BlueinPLtwenty wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:31 pm For a left winger Silvera is all right foot too predictable
Exactly what I expected that is what Middlesbrough fans said when he came to us some good ability but predictable and no final ball
Except that he did start to use his left foot as BluePL wrote later. Some of his crossing was bad, but he was one of the few who actually wanted to have a go and there was some final ball on occasion. So he's worth sticking with for now as hopefully the coaching team will work to improve his play.
He did see a lot of the ball but, for me, he wasted most of it. I think the reason why Silvera saw so much of the ball was down to our numerical advantage after the sending off. Luton changed their game to shore up the central defensive area which resulted in the wing areas being less populated, especially on the left. I was rather hoping that we made a switch and had Ritchie doing the crossing, which is his forte. I can't say I was overly impressed by Silvera but I think he did have moments when he looked like he could be good.
Reminds me of Kamara early last season. Let's hope our coaching staff can do their thing with Silvera like they did with Kamara.
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Silvera reminds me of Kamara early last season too. There is obvious potential there, but at present no end product. Early days yet though.
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For what it is worth I have been impressed by Lang so far this season, aggressive pressing and high work rate, and of course "that" goal at Leeds.

Towler and Moxon also looking good, which is nice to see. If we can manage a point against Middlesborough on Saturday it will for me be a really good start to the season, and even if we get beaten it will not be a disaster.
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I'm really enjoying the obvious leap in class at this level, and before the start of the season would have been happy with two points from our opening two fixtures, especially with our current crop of players available for selection. Luton looked better than us in a number of positions and probably would have won with 11 players on the pitch. They looked stronger, fitter and faster than us. I thought Mengi was outstanding for them and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him getting snapped up by a PL team before the transfer window shuts. Doughty was also excellent, and his set pieces were so much more dangerous than we can offer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if only three or four of our players from last Saturday were in our starting line up in a few weeks time: Pack, Shaughnessy, Williams and Ritchie (when Mous works out where to play him). Whilst I can see why Norris got MOTM, I think Mous has lost faith in him, hence why we are signing the Austrian keeper Nicolas Schmid. I thought Lang was very good on Saturday and having him back fully fit bodes well for the season. Like some others have mentioned, I think there is potential in Sammy Silvera with some coaching - his first touch is impressive, he is quick and I like his positivity. I am a big fan of Paddy Lane, but I think he is too lightweight at this level, and I think Saydee was the right choice to start, but should have been subbed earlier. We need Johnson and Yengi back, and I think Jacob Farrell will replace Ogilvie - he's too slow for this league. I'm intrigued to see where the Moxon v. Dozzell situation goes, but I'm hoping we get Tino Anjorin back as he is better than both IMO and has the strength, pace and physicality required for this league. What I do think after two games against two of the favourites to win the league is that we will be absolutely fine this season. PUP.
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Selsey Bill wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:34 pm I'm really enjoying the obvious leap in class at this level, and before the start of the season would have been happy with two points from our opening two fixtures, especially with our current crop of players available for selection. Luton looked better than us in a number of positions and probably would have won with 11 players on the pitch. They looked stronger, fitter and faster than us. I thought Mengi was outstanding for them and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him getting snapped up by a PL team before the transfer window shuts. Doughty was also excellent, and his set pieces were so much more dangerous than we can offer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if only three or four of our players from last Saturday were in our starting line up in a few weeks time: Pack, Shaughnessy, Williams and Ritchie (when Mous works out where to play him). Whilst I can see why Norris got MOTM, I think Mous has lost faith in him, hence why we are signing the Austrian keeper Nicolas Schmid. I thought Lang was very good on Saturday and having him back fully fit bodes well for the season. Like some others have mentioned, I think there is potential in Sammy Silvera with some coaching - his first touch is impressive, he is quick and I like his positivity. I am a big fan of Paddy Lane, but I think he is too lightweight at this level, and I think Saydee was the right choice to start, but should have been subbed earlier. We need Johnson and Yengi back, and I think Jacob Farrell will replace Ogilvie - he's too slow for this league. I'm intrigued to see where the Moxon v. Dozzell situation goes, but I'm hoping we get Tino Anjorin back as he is better than both IMO and has the strength, pace and physicality required for this league. What I do think after two games against two of the favourites to win the league is that we will be absolutely fine this season. PUP.
I like it Selsey you are spot on with your comments I noticed Paddy getting pushed aside too easily on Saturday as you say too lightweight but we will do well if we sell him on. IMO Our Championship players are Pack, Shocks, Williams, Richie, Lang, Farrell, Yengi, Murphy, Silvera, Dozzell, Moxon, Swanson, Poole, Mc Intyre,Saydee and Sorensen l make that 16 players.I think JM will keep Ogilvie as back up.
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Think it's somewhat premature to judge any of the new signings after only 2 games as the team is still bedding in and selection pretty much being determined by the current injury situation to be honest none have yet convinced me with their performances so far
And certainly we don't anyway know if Farrell and Yengi will be up to the step up Yengi last season was inconsistent and best used as an impact substitute
Murphy impressed against much lower quality teams in pre-season and we don't know which version we have the one who showed early promise and played well for half a season at Oxford or the one who bombed out at Cardiff and the first season and half at Oxford
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Good post SB, but have I missed something or just being thick?..."We need Johnson and Yengi back"...who is this Johnson?? :shock:
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eltorrro wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:52 pm Good post SB, but have I missed something or just being thick?..."We need Johnson and Yengi back"...who is this Johnson?? :shock:
I guessed it was meant to be Murphy
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Pompey55 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:58 pm
eltorrro wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:52 pm Good post SB, but have I missed something or just being thick?..."We need Johnson and Yengi back"...who is this Johnson?? :shock:
I guessed it was meant to be Murphy
I did wonder if that was so. Also, would like to continue seeing Towler in the side. He's only young but to me he is blossoming and gets more assurred and savvy each game he plays. If he is loaned out, perhaps to a league 1 team, I don't think he will progress any; he needs the challenge of the Championship.
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phat_chris wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:47 am
Blue Walter wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:21 am
NSRailings wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:44 pm
Pompey55 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:32 pm
BlueinPLtwenty wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:31 pm For a left winger Silvera is all right foot too predictable
Exactly what I expected that is what Middlesbrough fans said when he came to us some good ability but predictable and no final ball
Except that he did start to use his left foot as BluePL wrote later. Some of his crossing was bad, but he was one of the few who actually wanted to have a go and there was some final ball on occasion. So he's worth sticking with for now as hopefully the coaching team will work to improve his play.
He did see a lot of the ball but, for me, he wasted most of it. I think the reason why Silvera saw so much of the ball was down to our numerical advantage after the sending off. Luton changed their game to shore up the central defensive area which resulted in the wing areas being less populated, especially on the left. I was rather hoping that we made a switch and had Ritchie doing the crossing, which is his forte. I can't say I was overly impressed by Silvera but I think he did have moments when he looked like he could be good.
Reminds me of Kamara early last season. Let's hope our coaching staff can do their thing with Silvera like they did with Kamara.

The difference being that Silvera has had a season at this level with Middlesbrough whereas with Kamara it was his first season in men's football. The problem with loans is that if they have got talent it takes time to bring it out. This means a period of time when they are not contributing to the team whilst their talent is brought out, as we saw with Kamara last season. The second half of the season was a different Kamara than the one starting the season. There is no doubt he was a match winner by the time he left us but, prior to that, he was a bit of a liability. We have now done Norwich a good turn and sent back a player of merit. Now we are going through the same process with a player belonging to a club at the same level as us, and doing them a service. We need players that are going to be of use to us now, not halfway through the season. In my opinion loaned players should be ready to improve our team now and it is our youngsters that should be the ones being brought on.
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