Team for West Brom???

[Pompey55]

Positives:

McIntyre back and looked the part. Murphy looked good back from injury. Lang buzzing around causing problems. Swanson played well at right back. Norris surely puts to bed any doubts about him now. Poole back on the pitch. Aside from falling asleep in the first minute, we really gave a good account of ourselves in the first half.

Negatives:

Puzzling team selection playing a RB at CB when we had 2 CBs on the bench. Also Dozzell starting was a surprise and Farrell not even on the bench. Ogilvie just doesn't seem up to this level. Completely fell asleep for their first goal. We lack that clinical touch in attack needed at this level. Looked very flat in the second half chasing the game. Yengi injured late before the game.

Hopefully we can take the positives and iron out those negatives going forward.

After giving away a stupid early goal we I felt we were the better team in the first half Lane and Lang certainly put in a lot of effort and were possibly our best players but had no one upfront to threaten the goal no way is Saydee a number 9 he was most effective dropping deeper to win the ball
Murphy looked good going forward but rarely tracked back to support Ogilvie who quite frankly is a liability in defence but then pretty much disappeared in the second half
Kamara and Blair injected a bit of quality but again we do not have a decent striker Sorenson pretty much offered nothing whatsoever when he came on
All in all they showed that they are by far a class above us when they had possession being incisive on the ball with attacking players who can pose a threat at all times whilst we failed to have a single shot on target
It's going to be a long hard season and frankly I can't see anything that will change our situation going forward whatsoever
We look ok defensively have no real midfield apart from Pack although Kamara shows promise and absolutely no goal threat at all
Oh well looking forward to another long trip next Saturday to Burnley I am finding away days more fun than home games
Myself and my granddaughter were disgusted with the mass exodus of fans before the end of the game surely no matter the result you applaud the players at the end as long as they give their best which they did today despite quite frankly being outclassed by a much better team in the end

[Blue Walter]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

[Pompey55]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Don't worry all our speculative signings are assets we can hopefully develop and eventually sale them on at whatever level as the club's stated policy is exactly that it's never been about moving up the pyramid it's all about developing assets
Last season was a surprise to our owners and our recruitment team as let's be honest we totally out performed our expectations last season with what was a fairly average squad
So far as is apparent from our team selection Moushino is not convinced many of our signings are worth playing

[Pompey1984+1]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Don't worry all our speculative signings are assets we can hopefully develop and eventually sale them on at whatever level as the club's stated policy is exactly that it's never been about moving up the pyramid it's all about developing assets
Last season was a surprise to our owners and our recruitment team as let's be honest we totally out performed our expectations last season with what was a fairly average squad
So far as is apparent from our team selection Moushino is not convinced many of our signings are worth playing

You know full well that is not the club's policy.

We got beaten by a better team - your going to go through some serious bedsheets and mattresses this season.

[Pompey1984+1]

There were a couple of time today where good balls were played through but Saydee just doesn't have the pace, think one was Murphy in the first half, and one was on the break from the back.

We kept the ball and moved it around far better today than we have in some other games.

It was interesting to listen to the Baggies players and manager after the game, they knew they were in a game especially in the first half.

I think we will see a far more balanced line up next week - I think we have perhaps tried to be a bit too clever at times this season worrying about what the opposition might do.

[Pompey55]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Don't worry all our speculative signings are assets we can hopefully develop and eventually sale them on at whatever level as the club's stated policy is exactly that it's never been about moving up the pyramid it's all about developing assets
Last season was a surprise to our owners and our recruitment team as let's be honest we totally out performed our expectations last season with what was a fairly average squad
So far as is apparent from our team selection Moushino is not convinced many of our signings are worth playing

You know full well that is not the club's policy.

We got beaten by a better team - your going to go through some serious bedsheets and mattresses this season.

Sorry but the clubs stated policy both in this week’s Cullens programme notes and last week’s are exactly that we are recruiting players on the basis of their future development rather than their immediate impact on the team
I have said that actually we were the better team in the first half but pretty much failed to compete in the second half and there are no doubts whatsoever that without Bishop we lack a goal scorer
No I will not go through bedsheets as I will continue to support the team home and away no matter what the result but reserve the right to question the club’s recruitment and the fact that our policy is all about developing players rather than progressing up the pyramid
Yes I’ve already got my tickets for Burnley and look forward to a good day out accepting we will probably be trounced

[Pompey1984+1]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Don't worry all our speculative signings are assets we can hopefully develop and eventually sale them on at whatever level as the club's stated policy is exactly that it's never been about moving up the pyramid it's all about developing assets
Last season was a surprise to our owners and our recruitment team as let's be honest we totally out performed our expectations last season with what was a fairly average squad
So far as is apparent from our team selection Moushino is not convinced many of our signings are worth playing

You know full well that is not the club's policy.

We got beaten by a better team - your going to go through some serious bedsheets and mattresses this season.

Sorry but the clubs stated policy both in this week’s Cullens programme notes and last week’s are exactly that we are recruiting players on the basis of their future development rather than their immediate impact on the team
I have said that actually we were the better team in the first half but pretty much failed to compete in the second half and there are no doubts whatsoever that without Bishop we lack a goal scorer
No I will not go through bedsheets as I will continue to support the team home and away no matter what the result but reserve the right to question the club’s recruitment and the fact that our policy is all about developing players rather than progressing up the pyramid
Yes I’ve already got my tickets for Burnley and look forward to a good day out accepting we will probably be trounced

The clubs policy is not, to not progress up the pyramid. Stop being so dramatic.

Maybe listen to the interview with Mousinho on the BBC Podcast with Andrew Moon and Chris Wise it might give you the rest of the dots you need to join up.

[Sam_Brown]

lol why are we persisting with this nonsense the owners don’t want us to do well?

Even the most cynical who would claim the owners are only about making money can admit that if we do well, we make more money.

[Pompey1984+1]

lol why are we persisting with this nonsense the owners don’t want us to do well?

Even the most cynical who would claim the owners are only about making money can admit that if we do well, we make more money.

It's not even about making money for themselves, it's about making money to reinvest into the club.

[phat_chris]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Referring to the point you make about not coming up with many players of Championship quality, I thought I'd look through the squad and try to come up with a figure for how many we brought up with us that were of Championship quality. These are, of course, my opinions.

Norris was the best keeper in L1 and despite coming in for some criticism this season, he has made some truly excellent saves and certainly doesn't look worse than some of the other Championship keepers I've seen this season.
Swanson has stepped up and looks a decent RB at this level.
Shaughnessy didn't look overawed in the two games he has played so far.
McIntyre played today and really looked the part as a Championship CB.
Poole I believe has the quality if he can recover his pre-injury form.
Pack is Championship quality.
Lang has looked every bit the Championship player.
Lane will probably be a contentious choice but I believe he is a capable bottom half Championship player.
Bishop would have gotten us goals and will prove our biggest loss for the first half of the season.

I make that 9 players, many of which we have been missing due to injury. Not an insignificant amount, but shows why we had to recruit so many players this summer. I could also be persuaded to include Towler because of his early season performances, but would like to see more of him to make a better judgement.

[Pompey1984+1]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Referring to the point you make about not coming up with many players of Championship quality, I thought I'd look through the squad and try to come up with a figure for how many we brought up with us that were of Championship quality. These are, of course, my opinions.

Norris was the best keeper in L1 and despite coming in for some criticism this season, he has made some truly excellent saves and certainly doesn't look worse than some of the other Championship keepers I've seen this season.
Swanson has stepped up and looks a decent RB at this level.
Shaughnessy didn't look overawed in the two games he has played so far.
McIntyre played today and really looked the part as a Championship CB.
Poole I believe has the quality if he can recover his pre-injury form.
Pack is Championship quality.
Lang has looked every bit the Championship player.
Lane will probably be a contentious choice but I believe he is a capable bottom half Championship player.
Bishop would have gotten us goals and will prove our biggest loss for the first half of the season.

I make that 9 players, many of which we have been missing due to injury. Not an insignificant amount, but shows why we had to recruit so many players this summer. I could also be persuaded to include Towler because of his early season performances, but would like to see more of him to make a better judgement.

I dont think many, if any have looked out of their depth - in fact in all the games we have had spells where we have been in top (except Sunderland).

I think we will soon be in a position of playing with round pegs in round holes and start to have a steady team, against some of the teams we are in direct competition with. This will be where we can really tell where we are.

McIntyre looked a classy operator today.

[Blue Walter]

I think we actually played well, especially in the first half. I think we were outclassed overall but the effort and commitment made the first half relatively even. I think our defence was awful conceding that early goal and had we taken some of our chances it could have been a very different game.

Unfortunately I think that we don't have a competitive team for the Championship, maybe plenty of potential, but no real Championship class in depth. I think that if our potential doesn't come to the fore early enough this season we could end up with the most talented side in League One. In my opinion we have invested too much into the future rather than looking to our security in the league in the present. Hopefully these players with potential will perform well enough to keep us in this league but it is a huge gamble. Players of potential can only realise their talent by playing which means a period of time where they are less effective, and at the same time making the team less effective. I don't think we came up with many players who have Championship quality. Last seasons transfer business was mainly with League One in mind. I think our success took the club by surprise last season and that is shown by some of the players that were in our squad now not deemed good enough for this level.

Hopefully I have got that wrong and we go on to have a decent season. That is the beauty of football where sometimes the odds are defied and teams and players produce results against the odds. As I see it that is our main hope this season.

Referring to the point you make about not coming up with many players of Championship quality, I thought I'd look through the squad and try to come up with a figure for how many we brought up with us that were of Championship quality. These are, of course, my opinions.

Norris was the best keeper in L1 and despite coming in for some criticism this season, he has made some truly excellent saves and certainly doesn't look worse than some of the other Championship keepers I've seen this season.
Swanson has stepped up and looks a decent RB at this level.
Shaughnessy didn't look overawed in the two games he has played so far.
McIntyre played today and really looked the part as a Championship CB.
Poole I believe has the quality if he can recover his pre-injury form.
Pack is Championship quality.
Lang has looked every bit the Championship player.
Lane will probably be a contentious choice but I believe he is a capable bottom half Championship player.
Bishop would have gotten us goals and will prove our biggest loss for the first half of the season.

I make that 9 players, many of which we have been missing due to injury. Not an insignificant amount, but shows why we had to recruit so many players this summer. I could also be persuaded to include Towler because of his early season performances, but would like to see more of him to make a better judgement.

I think your list is contentious, as you say, a matter of opinion. In my opinion the players from last season that had Championship ability are; Poole, McIntyre, Rafferty, Lang and Shaughnessy. Pack has that class but lacks pace, although so far this season has operated at a decent level. Norris is not out of place in this league but his distribution is not this level. Murphy has played at this level but has not had great success but has pace and may well make the grade.

Then I believe there is a group that I think had potential to adapt to life at Championship level which are; Swanson, Towler and Bishop. Lane is yet to prove his ability at this level but I think his lack of pace let's him down, although his work rate and willingness to help out in defence is a plus for him.

So, in my opinion, there was a core of players already at the club that could make the step up in quality but nowhere enough of them. This core needed to be supplemented by new players coming in that had Championship quality. What we have had are players that have potential come in but have not played at this level. One or two have had Championship experience but they were definitely bargain basement players.

I think in all the games we have played this season we have been outclassed, either for long periods or phases of games. We have, admittedly played fancied teams so it would be a better gauge when we play teams who are expected to be middle of the table or lower.

The problem with potential is that it takes time to be realised and these players need games to bring that out. Will we get enough points while we wait for that potential to blossom?

[NSRailings]

It's going to be a long hard season and frankly I can't see anything that will change our situation going forward whatsoever

Weird, I thought it was "to early to draw any conclusions from this early in the season"

I started to fear the worst when comparing the teams during warm up. They have much bigger players than us in pretty much every position. But we played some encouraging stuff in the first half and didn't let the early goal knock us back. We played some through balls that just didn't make it and we harrassed them when they were faffing around at the back and should've done better from those situations. Pack played some lovely balls. Murphy was encouraging and so were Blair and Kamara. It's still a case of we're in the midst of the worst start we could wish for and I think when we get past it we'll start to pick up points. However, their 2nd goal knocked us.

West Brom were better going forward no doubt and might've had 1 or 2 more goals. Had to clap the players at the end as they obviously tried and were looking dejected but these opening fixtures are a big learning curve. There's a lot to work on and it's a massive test for Mous etc but I didn't feel disheartened afterwards.

The ref was diabolical in the first half and I thought he had it in for Saydee early on.

[Pompey1984+1]

The ref was diabolical in the first half and I thought he had it in for Saydee early on.

Saydee was fouled early on, it was a bit soft but it was a foul. Ref didn't give it. Saydee mouthed off at the ref - at this point the refs mind was made up, it was also shortly after this that Saydee left a bit on a West Brom player and got his booking - it was a booking and it was pretty naughty from Saydee.

[Blue Walter]

The ref was diabolical in the first half and I thought he had it in for Saydee early on.

Saydee was fouled early on, it was a bit soft but it was a foul. Ref didn't give it. Saydee mouthed off at the ref - at this point the refs mind was made up, it was also shortly after this that Saydee left a bit on a West Brom player and got his booking - it was a booking and it was pretty naughty from Saydee.

I thought Saydee had his best game for Pompey on Sunday. He has ability but his passing lets him down a bit at times. I think Saydee is best used as an impact player but if he starts games he really needs a strike partner to bring the best out of him, plus he would be ideal support for a more mobile striker.